@opp.io should !describe the #product before dumping you to a signup screen. I'm not grabbing headphones just to watch a video slowly describe what can be conveyed in text.
Show HN: Focus on what matters – who should do what
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Re: Show HN: Focus on what matters – who should do what
#12I don't agree with the verb tagging personally. It's irrelevant, isn't? Someone need to "do" something. The particular word choice doesn't impact the necessity. @who is the assignment #what is the task name @when is the due-date !do is pointless to specify.
`do` isn’t always the verb, though. @JoeBloggs should !do #CakeBaking vs @JoeBloggs should !bake #Cake EDIT: oh, I see, you tagging verbs more generally. I disagree. It adds context. @JoeBloggs #Contract by Friday. What about the contract? Review, sign, amend, shred?
You include the word like normal, I'm saying tagging it isn't going to be helpful in the long run. Not to mention you're already including the word "should" and now a bang too? Could have very simple language detection to identify the verb if that's the goal.
Tagging things implicitly groups them and imbues the ability to search/filter/organize by them. I just have a hard time envisioning a useful scenario in which you're looking at "Show me the # of taks by verb used"
Re: Show HN: Focus on what matters – who should do what
#13Earlier quoted context omitted.
+1 for WHEN. I like the ~ for When since a lot of dates are ballpark estimates, at least in planning stage.
Choice of symbol has some degree of being arbitrary and I only preferred '@' for when because we (at least in USA) often specify time that way. E.g. "meet for lunch @2:00pm". However, I can see that '@' might feel like a fragment of an email address John@xyz.com. The tilde '~' because UNIX/Linux alias for user's home directory. Hence the "who". I do admit that's a meaningless reason for any mainstream audience.
I also often use @ for specifying location. See you @office, @home.
Re: Show HN: Focus on what matters – who should do what
#14I am also for @who should !do #what ~when
I think you have a good idea for "one time only, not planned tasks".
Don't try to make this the next project management tool. Just a syntax/app to handle last minute, unplanned and delegation tasks.
Re: Show HN: Focus on what matters – who should do what
#15Hmmm... Hungarian notation for task delegation. Interesting. In any case, this wouldn't work for me because it's missing a critical declaration of WHEN. Missed deadlines are more often discussed in failed projects' post mortems rather than wondering WHO dropped the ball. I would've used '@' for WHEN and maybe '~' for WHO. But maybe we're getting into sigil hell.
+1 for WHEN. I like the ~ for When since a lot of dates are ballpark estimates, at least in planning stage.
How do you feel about '>' as WHEN indicator?
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#16Earlier quoted context omitted.
(I am one of the guys behind opp.io) What's Hungarian about it? :) When is definitely important, we have it on our roadmap. We picked @who because of @mention. Does it come natural to you?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungarian_notation > Hungarian notation is an identifier naming convention in computer programming, in which the name of a variable or function indicates its type or intended use. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungarian_notation#Relation_to_... > For example, in some forms of BASIC, name$ names a string and count% names an integer. The major difference [...] is that sigils declare the type…
Wow, didn't know that. Thanks for sharing, I really learned a lot!
Re: Show HN: Focus on what matters – who should do what
#17Earlier quoted context omitted.
`do` isn’t always the verb, though. @JoeBloggs should !do #CakeBaking vs @JoeBloggs should !bake #Cake EDIT: oh, I see, you tagging verbs more generally. I disagree. It adds context. @JoeBloggs #Contract by Friday. What about the contract? Review, sign, amend, shred?
You include the word like normal, I'm saying tagging it isn't going to be helpful in the long run. Not to mention you're already including the word "should" and now a bang too? Could have very simple language detection to identify the verb if that's the goal. Tagging things implicitly groups them and imbues the ability to search/filter/organize by them. I just have a hard time envisioning a useful scenario in which y…
While we use the word "should" on the landing page, in conversations is more flexible, hence the bang.
"@Meritt, can you please !inform the #delivery"
Re: Show HN: Focus on what matters – who should do what
#18amazing :) keep it up!
Re: Show HN: Focus on what matters – who should do what
#19@opp.io should !describe the #product before dumping you to a signup screen. I'm not grabbing headphones just to watch a video slowly describe what can be conveyed in text.
You are right. We got rid of more detailed explanations because it converted better, but we will try showing more of the product.
Attila
Re: Show HN: Focus on what matters – who should do what
#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
(I am one of the guys behind opp.io) What's Hungarian about it? :) When is definitely important, we have it on our roadmap. We picked @who because of @mention. Does it come natural to you?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungarian_notation > Hungarian notation is an identifier naming convention in computer programming, in which the name of a variable or function indicates its type or intended use. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungarian_notation#Relation_to_... > For example, in some forms of BASIC, name$ names a string and count% names an integer. The major difference [...] is that sigils declare the type…
One place I worked had a coding standard based around hungarian notation. For some reason I hated it, but I kind of like Perl's sigils.