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Re: Show HN: Nvestly, Never Invest Alone

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Honest and serious question - what's the purpose of this service? Do you think an investor will get higher returns if he knows what his friends are buying? What experts are buying? It seems to me that no serious investor would ever need this type of a service. I understand it's cool to make everything social, but I can get absolutely no useful information from this aspect. The reporting side can definitely be very co…

Thanks so much for this question!

There's ongoing debate as to whether a highly successful investor will surface and be able to beat the market (i.e. the next warren buffett). We don't take a position for or against that. To those that are up for the challenge, great, but we don't at all count on it. In fact, we debate it internally, but it's not as important bc our purpose right now is to provide this platform.

We believe there is value in the transparency of the platform to foster better discussions. Most people make decisions alone. And current platforms like Stocktwits are interesting for sentiment but are filled with banter and are unreliable for real discussions.

In terms of reporting / tools, we're focused on investor self-awareness. Most people have more than 1 account and have a hard time even finding out the annual return on their portfolio. We'd like to start alerting people of things like strategy drift, as well.

Slightly more advanced topic: There's also something to be said of the data itself once people start sharing. The idea is that if you can get a cross-section of sentiment / social data backed by real portfolio data, it adds an element that wasn't previously available and should technically result in a more efficient market, resulting in an opportunity for new value creation. Brainstorming with few Anderson / GSB / Cornell finance professors on this.

Re: Show HN: Nvestly, Never Invest Alone

#12
I'm with tinkerr: What is the value here? Openfolio.com is another player in this space, but I'm missing the value that this space has.

kyu: Can you speak to this? What is the ideal experience that you are hoping for people to get out of this which adds value to their stock market experience?

Re: Show HN: Nvestly, Never Invest Alone

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I made an account and checked it out, but I don't think I'm going to use it. I just don't get much out of it that I can see right now.

Something I immediately noticed: I'd like to have the ability to filter by diversified accounts. If I am looking at someone that gained 50% over the last year, and 91% of their holdings are 1 stock, I don't really gain anything. They bought shares in Tesla a couple of years ago. That's fine, but what do I get out of knowing that? Several members of your top group are like that.

When I open up 'professional investors' and go to an individual account, there isn't an easy way that I can see to go back to the overall view of professional investors, and going back sends me to the week's top performers window. I don't really want to go there at that point.

What might be useful for me too is a way to see what the professionals listed have invested in tracked over time, based on their past filings. It'd be interesting, anyway.

Re: Show HN: Nvestly, Never Invest Alone

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I'm with tinkerr: What is the value here? Openfolio.com is another player in this space, but I'm missing the value that this space has. kyu: Can you speak to this? What is the ideal experience that you are hoping for people to get out of this which adds value to their stock market experience?

Hey tinkerr, I'm the CEO, thanks for the question.

The value in this space is in the shared data. It's analogous to Twitter -- the individual tweets might be useless, but the collective data is valuable. If you could see all the real portfolio data that people are sharing, it would be magnitudes more interesting than sentiment data from i.e. stocktwits because it represents real dollars (and in that sense we let people share trades to stocktwits, too). Actually, if someday people were to start publishing real dollar amounts you'd even see total aggregate volume. And if people were to add target holding period to their trades, you could see volume by expected holding period. There's definitely inherent value in that, but it's a very long-term play.

For now, the value is in better investment discussions. It's impossible to have one on i.e. stocktwits. The real portfolio info provides an environment for higher quality conversations. A few experiences people have expressed are valuable on Nvestly: - Finding others who hold a stock they hold and discussing what to do next. - Finding people who have traded a stock a lot and sharing research - Having a little more fun by earnings investment merits (similar to badges) or getting feature as a top weekly investor

The 'business' way to describe the value to society is that the social element helps introduce the concept to the younger generation. >50% of millennials are saving for retirement but only 10% are investing even though the majority who save think of the stock market as a viable vehicle for retirement (had to memorize this for a pitch).

Re: Show HN: Nvestly, Never Invest Alone

#19

I made an account and checked it out, but I don't think I'm going to use it. I just don't get much out of it that I can see right now. Something I immediately noticed: I'd like to have the ability to filter by diversified accounts. If I am looking at someone that gained 50% over the last year, and 91% of their holdings are 1 stock, I don't really gain anything. They bought shares in Tesla a couple of years ago. That'…

Hey I'm one of the co-founders. Thanks for checking it out and for the comments! Right now the site doesn't filter for concentrated portfolios and we'll certainly be adding that. This is our first version of the product. Glad you noticed that! You might find more value in finding people who hold something you hold or something you're considering investing in.

We just added the "professional investors" section today and will be sure to work on the UX. Agree with your points here. That feature would be awesome, we're adding it to the list.

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