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Re: Show HN: How much profit does your employer make per employee?

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Post by IESAI_ski »

customguy wrote: post #9

It just says the same thing regardless of what I enter: 1 million annual: > If you got to keep your fair share of the profit Amazon.com reported, $77.7B, your salary would be $1.049.283. You helped Amazon.com make enough to pay you $49.283 more. 3 million annual: > If you got to keep your fair share of the profit Amazon.com reported, $77.7B, your salary would be $3.049.283. You helped Amazon.com make enough to pay yo…

Good catch, thanks! That was a locale bug. If your browser is set to a European locale, the number formatting was using periods instead of commas. Just pushed a fix, should be live in a minute or two.

You're right that the per-employee share is the same regardless of salary. That's the point: it shows what the company made per head, and then what your salary would look like with that added on top. The salary input just personalizes it.

Re: Show HN: How much profit does your employer make per employee?

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Post by NetOpWibby »

I recently learned that the CEO of the holding company that owns my employer made several hundred million dollars last year...while my coworkers and I are told to stop asking for raises (I've had approximately ONE since 2020 and the cost of living has never stopped increasing).

Pain.

Re: Show HN: How much profit does your employer make per employee?

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Post by [deleted] »

salawat wrote: post #3

Don't know why you got flagged into oblivion, but it's a noble effort. Some of the numbers you'll see in tech companies should seriously give one pause and thinking not only about where that income does come from, but also how the business works. I've personally left workplaces on such realizations. On second thought, that might be why you attracted flags. Can't be getting the help having thoughts above their station…

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Re: Show HN: How much profit does your employer make per employee?

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Post by IESAI_ski »

hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #8

So all companies should just fully divide their profits, totally equally, among employees, so shareholders get nothing. So why would anyone ever invest in companies in the first place? Why would employees have an incentive to work hard if they all get an equal share of profits. Look, I wholly agree that there are many things that need fixing in the American version of capitalism, but lord, this ain't it.

I admit I'm trying to be a little provocative here. But to be clear, that's not what the tool is arguing. It doesn't say companies should do what you are saying. It takes a big abstract number and puts it on a per-person scale so you can actually feel the size of it. I don't know how much profit should go to buybacks an dividends and workers, but we need the numbers to have the discussion.

"$22 billion in profit" means nothing to most people. "$10,000 per employee" does. That's it. The tool is a framing device, not a policy proposal.

What you do with that number is up to you. Maybe you think the current split is fair. Maybe you think you should ask for a raise. Maybe you just find it interesting. All fine.

Re: Show HN: How much profit does your employer make per employee?

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Post by Tiberium »

Not even talking about the actual content on the website, OP - why are all of your comments here LLM-generated?

It's extremely clear you're not writing those yourself, which makes the whole thing very disingenuous if you can't engage with others in your own language.

Re: Show HN: How much profit does your employer make per employee?

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Post by xyzzyz »

Dividing profits by employee count and calling this "fair share" is ludicrous. It exhibits a childish understanding of the world and the economy. If you believe that you're cheated, and you are creating significantly more value than you're paid, start your own single-person company and sell your services to others.

The truth is that by working for a company, you get access to environment that makes you much more productive than you'd otherwise be on your own. You also are not on the hook for most of the risks. It is patently unfair, and extremely short-sighted, to claim that investors deserve no compensation for their investment.

Re: Show HN: How much profit does your employer make per employee?

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Post by IESAI_ski »

xyzzyz wrote: post #16

Dividing profits by employee count and calling this "fair share" is ludicrous. It exhibits a childish understanding of the world and the economy. If you believe that you're cheated, and you are creating significantly more value than you're paid, start your own single-person company and sell your services to others. The truth is that by working for a company, you get access to environment that makes you much more prod…

I agree, if you think you're being cheated you should thinkg about starting your own company. Startups are much better on this. I definitely disagree with the idea that workers don't take on the risks. Workers get fired, relocated, their compensation gets changed, etc etc.

Re: Show HN: How much profit does your employer make per employee?

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Post by IESAI_ski »

Tiberium wrote: post #10
IESAI_ski wrote: post #2

I built the worker-owned co-op directory that was on here a couple weeks ago ( https://workerowned.info ). This is the other side of that coin: what do workers actually generate for owners at big public companies? You type in your company and your salary. It pulls net income and headcount from SEC 10-K filings and shows what each employee's equal share of the profit would be, and what your salary would look like with…

> Some caveats since this crowd will rightly push on them Maybe you should start by not writing your HN posts with an LLM..

that's me saying "this crowd" like.. you guys... and you guys are pushing back... heh should have left the typos in

Re: Show HN: How much profit does your employer make per employee?

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Post by tele_ski »

IESAI_ski wrote: post #11
customguy wrote: post #9

It just says the same thing regardless of what I enter: 1 million annual: > If you got to keep your fair share of the profit Amazon.com reported, $77.7B, your salary would be $1.049.283. You helped Amazon.com make enough to pay you $49.283 more. 3 million annual: > If you got to keep your fair share of the profit Amazon.com reported, $77.7B, your salary would be $3.049.283. You helped Amazon.com make enough to pay yo…

Good catch, thanks! That was a locale bug. If your browser is set to a European locale, the number formatting was using periods instead of commas. Just pushed a fix, should be live in a minute or two. You're right that the per-employee share is the same regardless of salary. That's the point: it shows what the company made per head, and then what your salary would look like with that added on top. The salary input ju…

I found that confusing personally, seems like it's just unnecessary and just seeing the raw number that you're missing out on would be easier to reason about.

Re: Show HN: How much profit does your employer make per employee?

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Post by Tiberium »

IESAI_ski wrote: post #18
Tiberium wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Some caveats since this crowd will rightly push on them Maybe you should start by not writing your HN posts with an LLM..

that's me saying "this crowd" like.. you guys... and you guys are pushing back... heh should have left the typos in

Sorry, but gaslighting others that you haven't used an LLM to write your comments when you obviously have is incredibly dishonest.
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