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Show HN: Agent.email – sign up via curl, claim with a human OTP

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Re: Show HN: Agent.email – sign up via curl, claim with a human OTP

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Post by GrinningFool »

FailMore wrote: post #9

I like it. I am building something very agent-use focused ( https://sdocs.dev ) and I’ve been thinking of introducing a /agent-evaluation page, which an agent can curl to then discuss with their user if SmallDocs is right for them. I really like the agent action to email flow. I’m introducing user accounts + subscriptions soon and think I’ll use that.

And now we see the beginning of how even local LLMs will be turned against their users -- by persuading agents to advertise to them.

I don't think that's what you're intending here, but it's the next logical step. Agents are on the Internet, and they represent an opportunity to reach their humans.

Re: Show HN: Agent.email – sign up via curl, claim with a human OTP

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Post by dgellow »

Not looking forward to a dehumanized internet where that’s mainstream… agents are tools to support humans, here you’re helping them impersonating humans. That feels pretty terrible to be honest

> The internet was made for humans exclusively, designed to keep machines out by default.

I don’t buy that at all. APIs exist to enable “machines” to interact with services

Re: Show HN: Agent.email – sign up via curl, claim with a human OTP

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Post by janalsncm »

dgellow wrote: post #12

Not looking forward to a dehumanized internet where that’s mainstream… agents are tools to support humans, here you’re helping them impersonating humans. That feels pretty terrible to be honest > The internet was made for humans exclusively, designed to keep machines out by default. I don’t buy that at all. APIs exist to enable “machines” to interact with services

In principle this tool allows the owner of a website to block this domain entirely. Although I’m not sure the incentives are really aligned.

Re: Show HN: Agent.email – sign up via curl, claim with a human OTP

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Post by dgellow »

OsrsNeedsf2P wrote: post #10
afzalive wrote: post #5

It needs to be end-to-end encrypted.

How do you do that if you only control one end?

Asymmetric encryption? Both you (the human) and the agent publish public keys, the agent sign/encrypt the OTP request with you public key, you verify/decrypt using your private key, then do the same the other way to send the OTP (always encrypted though, given you’re sending a secret).

Something like that?

Re: Show HN: Agent.email – sign up via curl, claim with a human OTP

#17

Post by pixel_popping »

A bit disappointed that security standards (like encryption at rest via user own key or whatever derivative of that) isn't implemented, I feel it would really prove to users that the commitment isn't to train on body content but to act purely as a mail manager.

Re: Show HN: Agent.email – sign up via curl, claim with a human OTP

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Post by adisingh13 »

DeathArrow wrote: post #6

A smtp is all what an agent needs to send email.

agreed from a fundamental level. but i think being an intelligent and aware as an autonomous entity requires capabilities beyond sending. agents will need to have contextual awareness of the messages they send and receive
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