It is good (?) to see competition. Yet, I would like ads to be beautiful, at the very minimum. Yours do not nicely blend in. Ads well done are those coming from 'The Deck', for example.
Show HN: an alternative to AdSense
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Re: Show HN: an alternative to AdSense
#12Hey HN, We've been working on EmberAds for a few months now and I think we are ready to get HN using it, The idea is you paste two lines of code, we match to your content and show ads. We've over 10,000 retailers in our system and work mostly in the UK + US (other countries are coming soon). Instead of being paid per click like adsense, you get paid per action (such as a signup or purchase) we've found this works bet…
> we've found this works better with sites that add value
I haven't. CPA tends to be the last resort of desperation for publishers -- unless, of course, the publisher's site is focused on the kinds of products advertised in the CPA network. Even still, realized CPM will be low.
Re: Show HN: an alternative to AdSense
#13Hey HN, We've been working on EmberAds for a few months now and I think we are ready to get HN using it, The idea is you paste two lines of code, we match to your content and show ads. We've over 10,000 retailers in our system and work mostly in the UK + US (other countries are coming soon). Instead of being paid per click like adsense, you get paid per action (such as a signup or purchase) we've found this works bet…
I applaud you for taking on this industry though paying on an action is more beneficial to the majority of advertisers than the majority of advertisers, and the advertisers are the side you don't have yet.
Re: Show HN: an alternative to AdSense
#14 (we even convert links into affiliate links automatically)
Re: Show HN: an alternative to AdSense
#15It is good (?) to see competition. Yet, I would like ads to be beautiful, at the very minimum. Yours do not nicely blend in. Ads well done are those coming from 'The Deck', for example.
We are working on different ads styles all the time to make sure they convert, I've see the Deck ones before and whilst they look good, I believe they are paid on a CPM basis so are more for branding than actual clicks (but that doesn't mean we won't try an adstyle that looks like that).
We've built our system to be quite flexible, we can make changes and push it across the whole network or just a small part within minutes for a nice a/b test
Re: Show HN: an alternative to AdSense
#16If you're being paid per action, are you not then relying on the ability of the advertisers to convert your clicks?
Also, you're kind of at the advertiser's mercy on how reliable they are about reporting conversions, right? I can't see how the ad network could audit conversions with certainty, unless they were also processing the payments. I would be very interested in hearing how it's done if I'm wrong, though. I suppose it's kind of the same with an affiliate program, but on an ad network with thousands of participants, it seems…
Test it, measure your revenue per 1000 and dump it if doesn't work for you. There's plenty of competition in this space.
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#17(we even convert links into affiliate links automatically) How does this play out? Your service looks incredibly interesting, but is there any way I can disable this? I don't want to trade my visitors' goodwill for a few bucks.
You can of course disable it when you generate your adcode you can untick +links :)
It works by simply converting a link that you write to amazon.com or thinkgeek.com and adding some affiliate tracking code so if someone clicks on the link and buys something, you can earn some revenue from that :) but yes opt-out is simple (I don't see how your trading visitors goodwill but obviously I'm biased ;) )
Re: Show HN: an alternative to AdSense
#18If you're being paid per action, are you not then relying on the ability of the advertisers to convert your clicks?
Also, you're kind of at the advertiser's mercy on how reliable they are about reporting conversions, right? I can't see how the ad network could audit conversions with certainty, unless they were also processing the payments. I would be very interested in hearing how it's done if I'm wrong, though. I suppose it's kind of the same with an affiliate program, but on an ad network with thousands of participants, it seems…
We partner with the major affiliate networks to use the conversion tracking they have, We also do regular test transactions to make sure that it works.
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#19If you're being paid per action, are you not then relying on the ability of the advertisers to convert your clicks?
Isn't this similar to Skimlinks i.e. you don't get paid by them until conversion?
Yes, they are also CPA.
We've also got something similar to them, in that we can rewrite links on the fly, converting them into revenue-earning links, if they match one of our merchants.