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Re: Show HN: I built a game on my old phone without knowing what I was building

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post #8

Quoting: “ What I’m describing is different. I’ll call it Vibe Discovery: you don’t know what you’re building. The requirements themselves are undefined. You’re not just discovering implementation - you’re discovering what the product should be. The distinction matters:” What is it with this pattern of phrases that screams LLM to me? Whenever I come upon this pattern I stop reading further.

Not only does it scream LLM output, I happen to find it almost always grating. It's fine enough when something is labeled as AI output, but when it's nominally a human-authored document it's maddening.

Claude tics appear to include the following:

- It's not just X, it's Y

- *The problem* / *The Solution*

- Think of it as a Z that Ws.

- Not X, not Y. Just Z.

- Bold the first sentence of each element of a list. If it's writing markdown, it does this constantly

- Unicode arrows → Claude

- Every subsection has a summary. Every document also has a summary. It's "what I'm going to tell you; What I'm telling you; What I just told you", in fractal form, adhered to very rigidly. Maybe it overindexed on Five Paragraph Essays

Re: Show HN: I built a game on my old phone without knowing what I was building

#13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One way I'd describe it is LLMs say lots of things that technically make sense but aren't quite like anyone would normally say it. And secondly they like to use more nouns for things, in my experience. Of course all this is just what I observe currently and could well become different for better and worse in future versions.

It’s just like my friend has a distinct way of speaking. LLMs also have a distinct voice.

Right, which is why it's so strange to suddenly see every other readme and blog post that gets shared on this site speaking with the same tone of voice. Dead Internet theory finally came here.

Re: Show HN: I built a game on my old phone without knowing what I was building

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post #8

Quoting: “ What I’m describing is different. I’ll call it Vibe Discovery: you don’t know what you’re building. The requirements themselves are undefined. You’re not just discovering implementation - you’re discovering what the product should be. The distinction matters:” What is it with this pattern of phrases that screams LLM to me? Whenever I come upon this pattern I stop reading further.

Not only does it scream LLM output, I happen to find it almost always grating. It's fine enough when something is labeled as AI output, but when it's nominally a human-authored document it's maddening. Claude tics appear to include the following: - It's not just X, it's Y - * The problem* / * The Solution* - Think of it as a Z that Ws. - Not X, not Y. Just Z. - Bold the first sentence of each element of a list. If it…

> Unicode arrows → Claude

Oh no!! Yet another thing I've been doing for the past decade which will now make me look like a robot. I thought my penchant for em-dashes was bad enough.

I have a keyboard shortcut to make the arrows. I think they look nice.

Re: Show HN: I built a game on my old phone without knowing what I was building

#15
post #7

Why can't we just call it "play". That is what we used to call doing things without a purpose. I wish people would disclose when they used an LLM to write for them. This comes across as so clearly written by ChatGPT (I don't know if it is) that it seriously devalues any potential insights contained within. At least if the author was honest, I'd be able to judge their writing accordingly.

I'm just vibe playing nowadays. Normal playing doesn't cut it anymore.

Re: Show HN: I built a game on my old phone without knowing what I was building

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s just like my friend has a distinct way of speaking. LLMs also have a distinct voice.

Right, which is why it's so strange to suddenly see every other readme and blog post that gets shared on this site speaking with the same tone of voice. Dead Internet theory finally came here.

I don’t mind reading LLM output, but it feels like plagiarism when people won’t admit they’re doing it.

Re: Show HN: I built a game on my old phone without knowing what I was building

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not only does it scream LLM output, I happen to find it almost always grating. It's fine enough when something is labeled as AI output, but when it's nominally a human-authored document it's maddening. Claude tics appear to include the following: - It's not just X, it's Y - * The problem* / * The Solution* - Think of it as a Z that Ws. - Not X, not Y. Just Z. - Bold the first sentence of each element of a list. If it…

> Unicode arrows → Claude Oh no!! Yet another thing I've been doing for the past decade which will now make me look like a robot. I thought my penchant for em-dashes was bad enough. I have a keyboard shortcut to make the arrows. I think they look nice.

oh I think they look nice too but unfortunately they are a Claude thing now :( though I think if you use them judiciously then it won't make the whole document look generated, it's really when it's deployed in the way Claude does that it's noticable

Re: Show HN: I built a game on my old phone without knowing what I was building

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Let me do a quick "vibe comment" here: Is it really you who built the game, when it actually was built by an algorithm after you nudged it in some direction, you even did not know from the start? Please fix title to "I gave instructions to LLM and it generated code for a game".

Re: Show HN: I built a game on my old phone without knowing what I was building

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post #8

Quoting: “ What I’m describing is different. I’ll call it Vibe Discovery: you don’t know what you’re building. The requirements themselves are undefined. You’re not just discovering implementation - you’re discovering what the product should be. The distinction matters:” What is it with this pattern of phrases that screams LLM to me? Whenever I come upon this pattern I stop reading further.

I misjudged the amount of dislike HN users have for AI generated writing. I have added a "meta" section explaining how the post itself was written by AI, directed by my own taste. Here's the meta - https://www.kikkupico.com/posts/vibe-discovery/#the-meta

To be frank, I don't think AI-generated writing is inherently bad. Since there appears to be a strong bias against it, I will stick to writing blog posts by hand.

Re: Show HN: I built a game on my old phone without knowing what I was building

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You posted the prompt to the game, care to post the prompt to the blog post? I don't care what an LLM thinks about how you built your game. I would like to know what you think, but I'm not going to try to salvage it from an LLM-generated blog post.

Here you go - https://www.kikkupico.com/posts/vibe-discovery/#the-meta

The blog post was written by Claude Code, reviewed by Gemini Pro, ChatGPT 5.2 Thinking, Kimi K2 Thinking, Deepseek Deep Thinking and me. Naturally, all the LLMs failed to judge that AI-generated writing is a turn-off for most readers. I failed to judge that too.

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