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Show HN: Picknplace.js, an alternative to drag-and-drop

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Re: Show HN: Picknplace.js, an alternative to drag-and-drop

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On mobile this is a strong contender for the worst UX I've ever seen. The whole page moves, so you have to continously scroll back up after placing something. If when in pick mode you would only scroll the list, I would be able to organize it much faster.

It's even worse on desktop. You have to scroll the entire screen (with mousewheel or arrow keys) to move the selection. I spent 30 seconds thinking it was bugged because the intuitive solution would be to click once, then simply click where you want to place it, but the "place" button only showed up on the one you already "picked". Fine idea, worst conceivable execution of UX I have ever seen.

Re: Show HN: Picknplace.js, an alternative to drag-and-drop

#12
how does it work with more complex layout not just vertical list of items, like those drag-and-drop for visualization UI: https://github.com/Kanaries/graphic-walker

you can see that there are different areas of draggable and droppable, on different directions.

Re: Show HN: Picknplace.js, an alternative to drag-and-drop

#13
This looks like an interesting concept!

> I find that the drag and drop experience can quickly become a nightmare, especially on mobile.

To me, drag and drop is only a nightmare on mobile. On desktop (using a mouse or trackpad), drag and drop actually works quite well.

Your design experiment reminds me of a recent talk of Scott Jenson, where he talked about how we just took over established UX patterns from desktop to mobile as is, and how that created all sorts of nuisances. (https://youtu.be/1fZTOjd_bOQ?t=1565)

If mobile drag&drop was implemented like you are suggesting from the very start, I actually might have preferred that over the situation we now ended up with.

One technical note on your implementation: on certain mobile browsers, there is a glitch where the UI can jump around as the browser dynamically slides top or bottom menu bars in and out.

Re: Show HN: Picknplace.js, an alternative to drag-and-drop

#18

Regardless of the technical and UX merit of this project. There are clearly a bunch of people who haven't used a new interface in perhapse years and are simply obtuse. It took me less than 5 seconds to start using this one handed while I was pissing at a urinal, I mean that quite literally.

Yes, the users must be wrong.

Re: Show HN: Picknplace.js, an alternative to drag-and-drop

#19
That's neat. Not sure if I would deploy it, as it will be hard to explain/teach people how to use it (as I see in other comments already), but I do see the value in it.

It solves the "drag and drop beyond what fits the screen" much better than you can with drag and drop, the awkward auto-scroll-on-nearing-the-edge-thing.

I would say, if you need to reorder many items, it gets a bit disorienting, the whole list moves as it's anchored to the item you are moving. Maybe there is a way to combine drag and drop where this kicks in if you go beyond the bounds of the visible area.

Also don't think this can work well with multiple axis/drop zones.

Re: Show HN: Picknplace.js, an alternative to drag-and-drop

#20
i was expecting when i click pick, that a "place" button would appear on each other item, or i could click on a row

OR possibly highlighting the spots between rows either with a line, or "place"

i think that's a much more intuitive & reliable ui, and would be an improvement on drag n drop. or a supplement to it

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