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Show HN: Writing Arabic in English
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Re: Show HN: Writing Arabic in English
#12Great work. I was expecting to use the informal transliteration keyboard, using 3 for ع
or using 2 for ء
or 7 for ح
Re: Show HN: Writing Arabic in English
#13There are many existing transliteration systems for Arabic, among them SATTS (developed to allow for transmission of Arabic text over telegraphs), the Buckwalter system (developed by Tim Buckwalter), Arabic chat alphabets (used in electronic communications before Arabic script could be easily rendered on electronic devices like phones), and numerous others listed at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romanization_of_Arabi…
The idea here is not to transliterate (it's easy) but to have a keyboard that you can use without having Arabic key stickers. A mapping like this makes it easier to memorize the layout, because you can use English letters as a guide. This strategy is also useful for other languages. For example, the regular Russian keyboard layout is "ЙЦУКЕН". It's completely phonetically different from "QWERTY", so if you can't touc…
This also exists for Arabic and other languages and has for maybe twenty years.
The first popular Arabic one was by a startup called Yamli. Google then launched a transliteration tool called Ta3reeb (I was working there at the time and helped build it during my 20% time). Microsoft then launched one called Maren.
They all let you type English letters then would try to deduce the Arabic words/script for it, and though the keyboard and mapping weren't exact, through some pretty primitive spell checks you could get 95% of the way there.
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#14Clicking in and hoping to see something about woed for word translation of Arabic, because that is something I enjoy when I see with other languages.
I know some people do it for fun and I don't doubt a number of them are taking the dumbest literal interpretation to make it even funnier, but I really wish there was more emphasis on "this is how natives of the language express this sentence" when learning: not only idioms, but also how ordinary sentences are built different.
(And pointers to resources that do just that would be welcome :-)
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#15Arabic fonts give me such envy. Why can't Latin fonts be so beautiful?
Re: Show HN: Writing Arabic in English
#16There are many existing transliteration systems for Arabic, among them SATTS (developed to allow for transmission of Arabic text over telegraphs), the Buckwalter system (developed by Tim Buckwalter), Arabic chat alphabets (used in electronic communications before Arabic script could be easily rendered on electronic devices like phones), and numerous others listed at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romanization_of_Arabi…
And don't forget the German DMG transcription. As they say in Linguistics, the most important language to learn when studying semitic languages is German, as German linguist basically did everything you could think of in the 19th century already
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#17The author of the article needs to get in touch with a Lebanese person. Just about any Lebanese who has lived mostly in Lebanon will do.
They have a popular and simple system for writing Arabic in Latin, with numerals stepping in for certain Arabic letters.
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#18The author of the article needs to get in touch with a Lebanese person. Just about any Lebanese who has lived mostly in Lebanon will do. They have a popular and simple system for writing Arabic in Latin, with numerals stepping in for certain Arabic letters.
That’s the so-called Arabic chat alphabet, and it’s used across the Arab world. But it isn’t standardized, and everyone writes it differently.
Re: Show HN: Writing Arabic in English
#19The author of the article needs to get in touch with a Lebanese person. Just about any Lebanese who has lived mostly in Lebanon will do. They have a popular and simple system for writing Arabic in Latin, with numerals stepping in for certain Arabic letters.
That’s the so-called Arabic chat alphabet, and it’s used across the Arab world. But it isn’t standardized, and everyone writes it differently.
Sounds like greeklish.
Re: Show HN: Writing Arabic in English
#20Great work. I was expecting to use the informal transliteration keyboard, using 3 for ع or using 2 for ء or 7 for ح
I thought about that, but I wanted to support numbers still