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Re: Show HN: Dev atrophy test – Can you still code without AI?

#11
Have you even dogfooded your quiz once before publishing to the Web?

> JS methods to select an element

> YOUR ANSWER

> getMethod: "getQuerySelectorAll"

> EXAMPLE CORRECT ANSWER

> const button = document.example('example');

TypeError: document.example is not a function

----

> Create an HTML form with an input field and submit button:

> YOUR ANSWER

> Submit

> EXAMPLE CORRECT ANSWER

> Submit

Not incorrect answer assessed as incorrect.

Re: Show HN: Dev atrophy test – Can you still code without AI?

#13
post #12

I am not worried about personal atrophy. I am worried about young people who never learn the fundamentals and blindly believe everything the llm say.

computer science is not social science

if your code doesn't work it doesn't work

you can't bullshit a computer

for people that are doing social science it's an issue

but they where way past the point of no return already so it doesn't really matter

Re: Show HN: Dev atrophy test – Can you still code without AI?

#15
post #11

Have you even dogfooded your quiz once before publishing to the Web? > JS methods to select an element > YOUR ANSWER > getMethod: "getQuerySelectorAll" > EXAMPLE CORRECT ANSWER > const button = document.example('example'); TypeError: document.example is not a function ---- > Create an HTML form with an input field and submit button: > YOUR ANSWER > Submit > EXAMPLE CORRECT ANSWER > Submit Not incorrect answer assesse…

Not sure what you expected, they built it with AI lol

Re: Show HN: Dev atrophy test – Can you still code without AI?

#16
post #13
post #12

I am not worried about personal atrophy. I am worried about young people who never learn the fundamentals and blindly believe everything the llm say.

computer science is not social science if your code doesn't work it doesn't work you can't bullshit a computer for people that are doing social science it's an issue but they where way past the point of no return already so it doesn't really matter

Code can absolutely "kinda work" or "mostly work"

Re: Show HN: Dev atrophy test – Can you still code without AI?

#17
post #13
post #12

I am not worried about personal atrophy. I am worried about young people who never learn the fundamentals and blindly believe everything the llm say.

computer science is not social science if your code doesn't work it doesn't work you can't bullshit a computer for people that are doing social science it's an issue but they where way past the point of no return already so it doesn't really matter

> if your code doesn't work it doesn't work

Code can definitely only sort of work: only works on the happy path, only works on the computer it was developed on, only works for some versions of some dependencies, only works when single threaded, only works when the network is fast enough, only works for a single user at a time etc etc etc.

Re: Show HN: Dev atrophy test – Can you still code without AI?

#18
post #11

Have you even dogfooded your quiz once before publishing to the Web? > JS methods to select an element > YOUR ANSWER > getMethod: "getQuerySelectorAll" > EXAMPLE CORRECT ANSWER > const button = document.example('example'); TypeError: document.example is not a function ---- > Create an HTML form with an input field and submit button: > YOUR ANSWER > Submit > EXAMPLE CORRECT ANSWER > Submit Not incorrect answer assesse…

Your button answer is wrong though because the input tag can't have content. The version using input should be .

Re: Show HN: Dev atrophy test – Can you still code without AI?

#19
post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

computer science is not social science if your code doesn't work it doesn't work you can't bullshit a computer for people that are doing social science it's an issue but they where way past the point of no return already so it doesn't really matter

> if your code doesn't work it doesn't work Code can definitely only sort of work: only works on the happy path, only works on the computer it was developed on, only works for some versions of some dependencies, only works when single threaded, only works when the network is fast enough, only works for a single user at a time etc etc etc.

yes so then you have a combination of code that works and code that doesn't work

and the code that doesn't work doesn't work

Re: Show HN: Dev atrophy test – Can you still code without AI?

#20
post #18
post #11

Have you even dogfooded your quiz once before publishing to the Web? > JS methods to select an element > YOUR ANSWER > getMethod: "getQuerySelectorAll" > EXAMPLE CORRECT ANSWER > const button = document.example('example'); TypeError: document.example is not a function ---- > Create an HTML form with an input field and submit button: > YOUR ANSWER > Submit > EXAMPLE CORRECT ANSWER > Submit Not incorrect answer assesse…

Your button answer is wrong though because the input tag can't have content. The version using input should be .

Having said that, I did just get marked down for having filter(num => num % 2 === 0) when the correct answer shouild (apparently) be filter(x => x % 2 === 0) so it's not great.
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