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Re: Show HN: Will I run Boston 2025?

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Post by erksa »

kibitzor wrote: post #7

Context for those not following running news, The Boston Marathon lowered qualifying times for most prospective runners for 2026 race [0]. Because the Boston Marathon has limited capacity, you can only run if you either: 1) raise $5k+ for a charity (limited spots) 2) run a full marathon below* a qualifying time The reason it's below* is because even if you run under a qualifying time, there may be enough people even…

I can't answer this for everyone, but as someone who has run 5 marathons and is running my 6th in 5 weeks (Frankfurt).

Boston has some kind of mythical status among marathoners. You're _not_ really there until you've qualified for Boston. I do not know where this comes from, but what I do know is that QUALIFYING for Boston as a male (33) is a BHAG that's fun to chase after.

Boston is the 6th of the 6 Abbot Marathon that are considered the "big" 6. New York, London, Chicago, Boston, Berlin and Tokyo. All the others you either win the lottery our you've 4 of the other ones. Nothing you can really do in 6 conseq years.

It's not even the fastest course, but it's the course for those who are "serious" about running as a hobby. Running a marathon isn't enough. Running Boston separates you from the try-hard crowd, with a lack of a better word.

Re: Show HN: Will I run Boston 2025?

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Post by khuey »

ggm wrote: post #8

Maybe the question is: should you run the Boston Marathon In 2016, a systematic medical review found that the risk of sudden cardiac death during or immediately after a marathon was between 0.6 and 1.9 deaths per 100,000 participants, varying across the specific studies and the methods used, and not controlling for age or gender. This translates to a few published marathon deaths worldwide in a typical year, although…

That's a far better death rate than the original marathon.

(1 death per 1 participant according to the tale of Pheidippides.)

Re: Show HN: Will I run Boston 2025?

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Post by erksa »

> Our mission is to understand fitness so you can achieve your athletic dreams. Recently, athletes have been gathering lot of data, but nobody has been able to fully leverage these sources to help people become more fit.

Strava has an entire data scientist dep devoted to analysing the captured data. They also publish a lot of their thinking around Relative Effort (RE) and other performance metrics.

Where do you differ?

Re: Show HN: Will I run Boston 2025?

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Post by ggm »

khuey wrote: post #12
ggm wrote: post #8

Maybe the question is: should you run the Boston Marathon In 2016, a systematic medical review found that the risk of sudden cardiac death during or immediately after a marathon was between 0.6 and 1.9 deaths per 100,000 participants, varying across the specific studies and the methods used, and not controlling for age or gender. This translates to a few published marathon deaths worldwide in a typical year, although…

That's a far better death rate than the original marathon. (1 death per 1 participant according to the tale of Pheidippides.)

Yea, I think Cochrane decided that wasn't an adequate sample to include.

Re: Show HN: Will I run Boston 2025?

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Post by philipwhiuk »

khuey wrote: post #12
ggm wrote: post #8

Maybe the question is: should you run the Boston Marathon In 2016, a systematic medical review found that the risk of sudden cardiac death during or immediately after a marathon was between 0.6 and 1.9 deaths per 100,000 participants, varying across the specific studies and the methods used, and not controlling for age or gender. This translates to a few published marathon deaths worldwide in a typical year, although…

That's a far better death rate than the original marathon. (1 death per 1 participant according to the tale of Pheidippides.)

Yes yes, discount the fact he'd just finished a battle and ran over 100 miles to get there in the first place.

> He ran about 240 km (150 mi) in two days, and then ran back. He then ran the 40 km (25 mi) to the battlefield near Marathon and back to Athens to announce the Greek victory over Persia in the Battle of Marathon (490 BC) with the word νικῶμεν (nikomen[8] "We win!"), as stated by Lucian chairete, nikomen ("hail, we are the winners")[9] and then collapsed and died.

But sure, it's the last 25 (50 given both ways) that really killed him, not the other 150 miles.

Re: Show HN: Will I run Boston 2025?

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Post by philipwhiuk »

ggm wrote: post #8

Maybe the question is: should you run the Boston Marathon In 2016, a systematic medical review found that the risk of sudden cardiac death during or immediately after a marathon was between 0.6 and 1.9 deaths per 100,000 participants, varying across the specific studies and the methods used, and not controlling for age or gender. This translates to a few published marathon deaths worldwide in a typical year, although…

And what's the sudden cardiac risk for any other given activity. "Cardiac Risk in the Young" is a legitimate problem regardless of running a marathon.

And what's the cardiac risk for no exercise at all?

You're not controlling for the fact you have to exist.

Re: Show HN: Will I run Boston 2025?

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Post by [deleted] »

ack210 wrote: post #5
charliebwrites wrote: post #4

Anything 2:50:00 or below is 100% and anything 2:55:00 and above is 0% Is this actually accurate or did I find a bug? If not, such a weird 5 minute window

The 0% above 2:55 makes sense at least since it's the BAA's new cutoff this year for males https://www.baa.org/races/boston-marathon/qualify

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Re: Show HN: Will I run Boston 2025?

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Post by jonnycat »

ack210 wrote: post #5
charliebwrites wrote: post #4

Anything 2:50:00 or below is 100% and anything 2:55:00 and above is 0% Is this actually accurate or did I find a bug? If not, such a weird 5 minute window

The 0% above 2:55 makes sense at least since it's the BAA's new cutoff this year for males https://www.baa.org/races/boston-marathon/qualify

But that's for 2026 - the 2025 time qualifying time is 3:00.
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