Nice work!
Can you consider finding a different solution for the many entries on Null Island, please?
Show HN: I built interactive map of active and decommissioned nuclear stations
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Re: Show HN: I built interactive map of active and decommissioned nuclear stations
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Indeed. I wonder what are the real reasons behind these bans in German nations. Can't believe it's just for political populism, there must be something more substantial.
> Can't believe it's just for political populism, there must be something more substantial. Can you expand on what you mean by that? Also, generalizing "German" nations like this does seem a bit odd to me. Austria has a very clear and different history with nuclear power compared to Germany where it is only recently that they vowed to get rid of nuclear. For the latter case, it very much was due to events around the…
Not sure about the rest, but I can definitely explain why Germany has (had) nuclear power plants and Austria doesn't: lobbying! Siemens wanted an opportunity to show off its technology, so all NPPs in West Germany were built by them. Austria didn't have such implications, so no nuclear power. Lobbying (by the strong automobile industry) is also the reason why the German autobahns still have no general speed limit and are still free to use for cars (paid by taxes of course). Austria BTW has both a speed limit and a toll for its freeways (and no domestic car manufacturers).
Re: Show HN: I built interactive map of active and decommissioned nuclear stations
#13Earlier quoted context omitted.
Indeed. I wonder what are the real reasons behind these bans in German nations. Can't believe it's just for political populism, there must be something more substantial.
> Can't believe it's just for political populism, there must be something more substantial. Can you expand on what you mean by that? Also, generalizing "German" nations like this does seem a bit odd to me. Austria has a very clear and different history with nuclear power compared to Germany where it is only recently that they vowed to get rid of nuclear. For the latter case, it very much was due to events around the…
If Germany was so worried about accidents, wouldn't they have fights and serious arguments with the neighbors like France that is packed with nuclear fuel, plants, and the French character of seeking endless revolutions?
Germany intentionally did something that they knew will hurt its economy, there should be a very profound reason for taking such a hit. Who would be ok to take such a hit because of a "fear"?
My generalization about the German nations may be really inaccurate here, I just thought they all had a huge influence on each other (which affects lots of previous and future decisions).
Re: Show HN: I built interactive map of active and decommissioned nuclear stations
#14Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Can't believe it's just for political populism, there must be something more substantial. Can you expand on what you mean by that? Also, generalizing "German" nations like this does seem a bit odd to me. Austria has a very clear and different history with nuclear power compared to Germany where it is only recently that they vowed to get rid of nuclear. For the latter case, it very much was due to events around the…
If Germany was so worried about accidents, wouldn't they have fights and serious arguments with the neighbors like France that is packed with nuclear fuel, plants, and the French character of seeking endless revolutions? Germany intentionally did something that they knew will hurt its economy, there should be a very profound reason for taking such a hit. Who would be ok to take such a hit because of a "fear"? My gene…
They do - e.g. before its closure, there was a lot of German (and Swiss) opposition to the Fessenheim NPP, located just across the Rhine from Germany (the English Wikipedia article only mentions it briefly https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fessenheim_Nuclear_Power_Plant..., but the German one has more details, including a long list of somewhat significant incidents https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kernkraftwerk_Fessenheim#Betri...)
Re: Show HN: I built interactive map of active and decommissioned nuclear stations
#15Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Can't believe it's just for political populism, there must be something more substantial. Can you expand on what you mean by that? Also, generalizing "German" nations like this does seem a bit odd to me. Austria has a very clear and different history with nuclear power compared to Germany where it is only recently that they vowed to get rid of nuclear. For the latter case, it very much was due to events around the…
Not sure about the rest, but I can definitely explain why Germany has (had) nuclear power plants and Austria doesn't: lobbying! Siemens wanted an opportunity to show off its technology, so all NPPs in West Germany were built by them. Austria didn't have such implications, so no nuclear power. Lobbying (by the strong automobile industry) is also the reason why the German autobahns still have no general speed limit and…
History has shown that German automotive industry has huge power, so things like nuclear ban, shady emission restrictions, etc. seem like just the tip of the iceberg.
Re: Show HN: I built interactive map of active and decommissioned nuclear stations
#16Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Can't believe it's just for political populism, there must be something more substantial. Can you expand on what you mean by that? Also, generalizing "German" nations like this does seem a bit odd to me. Austria has a very clear and different history with nuclear power compared to Germany where it is only recently that they vowed to get rid of nuclear. For the latter case, it very much was due to events around the…
If Germany was so worried about accidents, wouldn't they have fights and serious arguments with the neighbors like France that is packed with nuclear fuel, plants, and the French character of seeking endless revolutions? Germany intentionally did something that they knew will hurt its economy, there should be a very profound reason for taking such a hit. Who would be ok to take such a hit because of a "fear"? My gene…
For a lot of people in Germany it's not about the risk of an accident, but rather the cost of building and decomissioning nuclear reactors.
Re: Show HN: I built interactive map of active and decommissioned nuclear stations
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didn't know about this one, looks nice but complicated. Note: if you want to see individual stations, you can disable clustering on the map I've made on the top right corner there's a control for disabling clustering. maybe I should make clustering disabled by default?
All OpenStreetMap - nuclear: https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/1Pqv And you can add an extra osm link / Wikidata link for any individual Nuclear Plants: example: https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/5538984#map=16/49.084... And a Link to Wikidata : https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q336735
Nice, thanks for the ideas and links!
Might add this data to the map in the future, hopefully will find a way to do so in a user-friendly way without cluttering the ui.
Re: Show HN: I built interactive map of active and decommissioned nuclear stations
#18> what came to my surprise is that Poland, Turkey, Scandinavian countries, Africa have literally 1 to none nuclear stations. Also, Austria: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_power_in_Austria Short timeline: - 1972: started building its first nuclear power plant - 1978: parliament decides to ban nuclear power for 20 years - 1997: ban is made permanent Note that the initial decision for the ban was even before Cher…
Indeed. I wonder what are the real reasons behind these bans in German nations. Can't believe it's just for political populism, there must be something more substantial.
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Re: Show HN: I built interactive map of active and decommissioned nuclear stations
#19There is a circle with 10 nuclear stations that is erroneously located (on the map) in the Atlantic just south of West Africa. That should be in/near China.
Re: Show HN: I built interactive map of active and decommissioned nuclear stations
#20Nice work! Can you consider finding a different solution for the many entries on Null Island, please?
Ideally, this Null Island should not exist on this map I think.
I guess I'll need to research all of them and put a sensible location for each. e.g. Kumharia should be in India, not on the Null Island. Will do once I have more time for this project