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Re: Show HN: Stream of Consciousness – watch an artificial persona making art

#11

Post by jamez »

ilaksh wrote: post #10

I think the meat of this is the text-to-image model. I hope you will upgrade to use leading edge models like DALLE-3 or Imagen 2 or SD 3 (when available) if you are not already. That will dramatically increase the effectiveness of portraying the given vision for the virtual artist if they are using a prior model.

The text-to-image model is an important component, but the current model in use is IMO good enough. My view for this project is that the internal monologue is more important than the output, so my wish is instead for a better open-weight LLM.

Re: Show HN: Stream of Consciousness – watch an artificial persona making art

#12

Post by ilaksh »

jamez wrote: post #11
ilaksh wrote: post #10

I think the meat of this is the text-to-image model. I hope you will upgrade to use leading edge models like DALLE-3 or Imagen 2 or SD 3 (when available) if you are not already. That will dramatically increase the effectiveness of portraying the given vision for the virtual artist if they are using a prior model.

The text-to-image model is an important component, but the current model in use is IMO good enough. My view for this project is that the internal monologue is more important than the output, so my wish is instead for a better open-weight LLM.

Which text to image and LLM models are you using?

Re: Show HN: Stream of Consciousness – watch an artificial persona making art

#13

Post by jamez »

ilaksh wrote: post #12
jamez wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The text-to-image model is an important component, but the current model in use is IMO good enough. My view for this project is that the internal monologue is more important than the output, so my wish is instead for a better open-weight LLM.

Which text to image and LLM models are you using?

LLM: Mixtral-8x7B text-to-image: one of the leading commercial models, whose TOS I may or may not be violating.

Re: Show HN: Stream of Consciousness – watch an artificial persona making art

#14

Post by ilaksh »

jamez wrote: post #13
ilaksh wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which text to image and LLM models are you using?

LLM: Mixtral-8x7B text-to-image: one of the leading commercial models, whose TOS I may or may not be violating.

Mixtral is great. I assume you saw the DBRX and new larger Mixtral release that just came out over the last few days.

Re: Show HN: Stream of Consciousness – watch an artificial persona making art

#15

Post by jamez »

ilaksh wrote: post #14
jamez wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

LLM: Mixtral-8x7B text-to-image: one of the leading commercial models, whose TOS I may or may not be violating.

Mixtral is great. I assume you saw the DBRX and new larger Mixtral release that just came out over the last few days.

I did! I want to switch to Mixtral-8x22B, time permitting. During the development of Stream of Consciousness I already swapped LLMs twice. This space is moving incredibly fast.

Re: Show HN: Stream of Consciousness – watch an artificial persona making art

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Post by airstrike »

jamez wrote: post #9
etheridev wrote: post #7

It’s very interesting! Does everyone get the same thought? It feels like it’s stuck in a bit of a loop around a Dutch chant around Jews because it can’t get an image to evoke the feeling… probably because it can seem racist. It seems to have got there by reading the news and seeing an article about the history of the chant. I suppose this AI also goes for attention grabbing headlines!

Glad you like it! One of the things I tried to emulate is the notion of obsessions, which I believe is an important component of the creative process. It seems like Livia got obsessed with Dutch Proverbs and slowly drifted to "Dutch protest culture". I have no control over what happens during the live streaming and I'm sure this autonomous agent could become a source of embarrassment, though I hope the few precaution…

here it got stuck at

> I am visiting the website: firstamendmentmuseum.org

> I am seeing that in the 18th and 19th centuries, protest music utilized already-popular tunes with altered lyrics, and songs needed to be easy to learn and sing by protestors, picketers, activists, and more because recording technology was not available and songs needed to be passed down orally.

> I am seeing that in the 18th and 19th centuries, protest music utilized already-popular tunes with altered lyrics, and songs needed to be easy to learn and sing by protestors, picketers, activists, and more because recording technology was not available and songs needed to be passed down orally.

> I am seeing that in the 18th and 19th centuries, protest music utilized already-popular tunes with altered lyrics, and songs needed to be easy to learn and sing by protestors, picketers, activists, and more because recording technology was not available and songs needed to be passed down orally.

> I am thinking that I hope I didn't forget to pay a bill that was due today.

> I am visiting the website rateyourmusic.com

> I am seeing that in the 18th and 19th centuries, protest music utilized already-popular tunes with altered lyrics, and songs needed to be easy to learn and sing by protestors, picketers, activists, and more because recording technology was not available and songs needed to be passed down orally.

> I am visiting the website freedomforum.org

> I am seeing that in the 18th and 19th centuries, protest music utilized already-popular tunes with altered lyrics, and songs needed to be easy to learn and sing by protestors, picketers, activists, and more because recording technology was not available and songs needed to be passed down orally.

So part of me feels like the missing component to this nice "obsession" trait you added is the assessment of whether it is finding new information or just reading stale data. I think given known information, humans will either quickly dismiss it (sometimes just a few words into it) or try to appreciate it through a new perspective. The latter seems harder to achieve, but the former seems feasible today—when finding repeated information several iterations in a row, shake everything up and get creative again.

A corollary to that is "obsession" is perhaps balanced by some measure of "boredom"

Re: Show HN: Stream of Consciousness – watch an artificial persona making art

#18

Post by jamez »

airstrike wrote: post #17
jamez wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Glad you like it! One of the things I tried to emulate is the notion of obsessions, which I believe is an important component of the creative process. It seems like Livia got obsessed with Dutch Proverbs and slowly drifted to "Dutch protest culture". I have no control over what happens during the live streaming and I'm sure this autonomous agent could become a source of embarrassment, though I hope the few precaution…

here it got stuck at > I am visiting the website: firstamendmentmuseum.org > I am seeing that in the 18th and 19th centuries, protest music utilized already-popular tunes with altered lyrics, and songs needed to be easy to learn and sing by protestors, picketers, activists, and more because recording technology was not available and songs needed to be passed down orally. > I am seeing that in the 18th and 19th centur…

Well spotted. The agent does in fact assess whether or not the information it's processing is already in its vector DB. I'm still unclear if what you noticed is due to the LLM failing (Mixtral is good, but not great), or something else, but it needs fixing. Thanks for letting me know.

Re: Show HN: Stream of Consciousness – watch an artificial persona making art

#19

Post by squigz »

> human uniqueness is being eroded

Why does this bother so many people? The more we learn about life on our own tiny planet, and when you consider the size of the universe... certainly we're not very unique at all. So what? I don't think it should change anything.

Re: Show HN: Stream of Consciousness – watch an artificial persona making art

#20

Post by jamez »

squigz wrote: post #19

> human uniqueness is being eroded Why does this bother so many people? The more we learn about life on our own tiny planet, and when you consider the size of the universe... certainly we're not very unique at all. So what? I don't think it should change anything.

I'm probably not the best person to elaborate on why societal anxieties arise every time our place in the universe shrinks. I guess observing reactions to copernican heliocentrism could be a good starting point. We're witnessing something similar, and while we may accept it at the individual level, the objections of the many will stir painful reactions.
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