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Re: Show HN: Let's Build AI

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Post by nurettin »

vouaobrasil wrote: post #9

I'm currrently re-reading Jurassic Park, and I can't help but wonder whether we are committing the same mistakes with AI as the scientists in the book... AI seems to be the ultimate example of "shoot first, ask questions later". We have no idea how AI will effect society, the marginal benefits to people are near-zero (measred in terms of the difference before any adoption to widespread adoption, not incremental inter…

You could say the same thing about computers, but you are comfortably sitting in front of one of them. Previously you were probably sitting in a public transportation vehicle.

How do you personally distinguish between "this is an apocalyptic mistake" and "this is a step in the right direction" ?

Re: Show HN: Let's Build AI

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Post by npteljes »

vouaobrasil wrote: post #9

I'm currrently re-reading Jurassic Park, and I can't help but wonder whether we are committing the same mistakes with AI as the scientists in the book... AI seems to be the ultimate example of "shoot first, ask questions later". We have no idea how AI will effect society, the marginal benefits to people are near-zero (measred in terms of the difference before any adoption to widespread adoption, not incremental inter…

Another kind of cautionary tale could be that someone could, but doesn't advance something, because of moral reasons, and then someone else goes ahead and does it anyways. One of such tales is Ányos Jedlik, who might have had a lead in the creation of the electric motor and the dynamo, but we'll never truly know, as he was not the kind of person to go ahead and patent and build a business. Nevertheless, both were invented timely, and became the foundation of a more modern age.

I think that at the end of the day, the dinos will get resurrected. What you can decide is what part you want of it.

Re: Show HN: Let's Build AI

#13

Post by josfredo »

musikele wrote: post #3

I think a "roadmap" should be also provided on how to learn this topic in a guided way. Also, some captions would be useful: what does it mean "model development"? Why "vector databases" ? What is "LLM Automation" ? What should I click first if I am a complete newbie ?

Yes, this is a must! A newbies-focused roadmap would differentiate it from other linksites. Newbies would benefit tremendously if they can grasp every keyword, and not get overwhelmed. This site could really be the starter platform of every AI enthusiast.

Re: Show HN: Let's Build AI

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Post by yard2010 »

nurettin wrote: post #11
vouaobrasil wrote: post #9

I'm currrently re-reading Jurassic Park, and I can't help but wonder whether we are committing the same mistakes with AI as the scientists in the book... AI seems to be the ultimate example of "shoot first, ask questions later". We have no idea how AI will effect society, the marginal benefits to people are near-zero (measred in terms of the difference before any adoption to widespread adoption, not incremental inter…

You could say the same thing about computers, but you are comfortably sitting in front of one of them. Previously you were probably sitting in a public transportation vehicle. How do you personally distinguish between "this is an apocalyptic mistake" and "this is a step in the right direction" ?

Not cp but I would say it's the scale and timeframes

Re: Show HN: Let's Build AI

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Post by vouaobrasil »

nurettin wrote: post #11
vouaobrasil wrote: post #9

I'm currrently re-reading Jurassic Park, and I can't help but wonder whether we are committing the same mistakes with AI as the scientists in the book... AI seems to be the ultimate example of "shoot first, ask questions later". We have no idea how AI will effect society, the marginal benefits to people are near-zero (measred in terms of the difference before any adoption to widespread adoption, not incremental inter…

You could say the same thing about computers, but you are comfortably sitting in front of one of them. Previously you were probably sitting in a public transportation vehicle. How do you personally distinguish between "this is an apocalyptic mistake" and "this is a step in the right direction" ?

> How do you personally distinguish between "this is an apocalyptic mistake" and "this is a step in the right direction" ?

Good question. The first step is to analyze each technology individually, rather than usual analogies :)

Re: Show HN: Let's Build AI

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Post by vouaobrasil »

npteljes wrote: post #12
vouaobrasil wrote: post #9

I'm currrently re-reading Jurassic Park, and I can't help but wonder whether we are committing the same mistakes with AI as the scientists in the book... AI seems to be the ultimate example of "shoot first, ask questions later". We have no idea how AI will effect society, the marginal benefits to people are near-zero (measred in terms of the difference before any adoption to widespread adoption, not incremental inter…

Another kind of cautionary tale could be that someone could, but doesn't advance something, because of moral reasons, and then someone else goes ahead and does it anyways. One of such tales is Ányos Jedlik, who might have had a lead in the creation of the electric motor and the dynamo, but we'll never truly know, as he was not the kind of person to go ahead and patent and build a business. Nevertheless, both were inv…

> What you can decide is what part you want of it.

Or, you can build a revolution to take it down...

Re: Show HN: Let's Build AI

#17

Post by pmarreck »

vouaobrasil wrote: post #9

I'm currrently re-reading Jurassic Park, and I can't help but wonder whether we are committing the same mistakes with AI as the scientists in the book... AI seems to be the ultimate example of "shoot first, ask questions later". We have no idea how AI will effect society, the marginal benefits to people are near-zero (measred in terms of the difference before any adoption to widespread adoption, not incremental inter…

> AI seems to be the ultimate example of "shoot first, ask questions later". We have no idea how AI will effect society

You know, you say this, but we had massive changes after personal computers and the Internet and the iPhone became a thing, and no studies to my knowledge were produced before any of these things were introduced. All of the predicted effects were only positive, because only good actors were involved in creating them, but as we now know, a lot of downsides also resulted, mainly because of bad actors and perverse incentives and simple human psychology.

The progress of the last 40 years seems to be a validation of "Be careful what you wish for"

I used to bike 5 miles to a library in the 80's (as a teen) in order to learn anything. Now it's all on a device in my pocket that I might have killed for were it available then. But of course, it's not just the phone, it's the ubiquitous cell network, the (wired) Internet, display/memory/cpu tech and everything else that all makes it possible. Can I spend "too much time" on my phone? Sure, but I'm also hyper-aware of that tendency now. I've learned to cope with the downsides, while gaining the advantages.

I tend to believe that tech becomes available when we're ready for it, and that the positives always outweigh the negatives. (I'm still on the fence here regarding arms.)

Re: Show HN: Let's Build AI

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Post by zingar »

stanac wrote: post #2

Looks neat, kind of those "awesome X" list. Maybe adding a wiki would be interesting (so uninitiated can learn what is what and where to start if they want to build/train their own AI). Tangential question I am not sure where else to ask: Would it be possible to train AI at home on a book? I was thinking about how sometimes I start reading a book and then get distracted for a month or two. Summarizing chapters and ch…

Is privateGPT what you're looking for? It stores PDFs in a vector DB and answers questions based on that content alone.

Edit: Everything is local. This is not training, it takes a standard LLM and gives it extra context based on what text the tool finds in the vector DB related to the topic.

https://github.com/imartinez/privateGPT

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