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Show HN: SwaraNotebook – a notation editor for Indian classical music
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Re: Show HN: SwaraNotebook – a notation editor for Indian classical music
#12Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's an interesting use-case. There are 37 buttons in the keyboard (for 12 svaras, 3 octaves, plus 1). How many might be needed for the Tabla? Is there a 'universal' set of Tabla Bols ?
I know that there has been a lot of work done in India for writing down Tabla. I am Pakistani, and I can't read hindi in devanagari script, so I am not familiar with this work. Here is my understanding. In tabla a bol is equal to hitting one or both drums at a given moment. The dayan (the smaller one) roughly has a set of standard 'hits'. At least 8. But the same hit can be done with different fingers, which has diff…
That's cool!
I'm a big fan of Ustad Tari Khan's tabla style.
So what language would you write a composition in? Urdu, or English?
I'm somewhat familiar with the bols since I learnt the Tabla a long time ago. 16 sounds a manageable number. Of course, putting together the audio samples to play a piece and making it sound non-robotic would be another challenge.
But another question is: would you find such a tool useful? There's a similar trend with Raga music, because recording is so easy now, few seem to want to take the trouble to write down notes. Would you, as a Tabla practitioner want to write down a composition?
Re: Show HN: SwaraNotebook – a notation editor for Indian classical music
#13Sounds awesome. Do you have any tips on getting started with this kind of musical tradition?
There are multiple classical musical schools, the most prominent are the Hindustani (Indo-Persian) and Carnatic music. There is commonality in both with respect to notes and how combinations are formed to raag/raagas
Here is an example of Carnatic music for beginners (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YNv1qwxJ0o)
Re: Show HN: SwaraNotebook – a notation editor for Indian classical music
#14This is awesome!
I was looking for software, where I could input notes of Hindi songs. And then replay them in a loop to practice singing the song. I will try your application.
Re: Show HN: SwaraNotebook – a notation editor for Indian classical music
#15This is awesome! I was looking for software, where I could input notes of Hindi songs. And then replay them in a loop to practice singing the song. I will try your application.
Neat!
You could add the lyrics below each note as well. The lyrics section is hidden by default, you could go to the gear ( ) icon and enable it.
And not just for Hindi songs, but for any song that can be imagined in Swaras. Here's Boney M's Rasputin written as a notebook https://swaranotebook.com/view/vlB9hVgb5OdKcadbhOOYyzKwvpl2/...
Re: Show HN: SwaraNotebook – a notation editor for Indian classical music
#16You may want to take a look at this too:
https://github.com/sargam/digital
Re: Show HN: SwaraNotebook – a notation editor for Indian classical music
#17Earlier quoted context omitted.
I know that there has been a lot of work done in India for writing down Tabla. I am Pakistani, and I can't read hindi in devanagari script, so I am not familiar with this work. Here is my understanding. In tabla a bol is equal to hitting one or both drums at a given moment. The dayan (the smaller one) roughly has a set of standard 'hits'. At least 8. But the same hit can be done with different fingers, which has diff…
That's cool! I'm a big fan of Ustad Tari Khan's tabla style. So what language would you write a composition in? Urdu, or English? I'm somewhat familiar with the bols since I learnt the Tabla a long time ago. 16 sounds a manageable number. Of course, putting together the audio samples to play a piece and making it sound non-robotic would be another challenge. But another question is: would you find such a tool useful?…
I would not use a written down version over a memorized version because it misses all the nuances of the piece. But a playable tool for Tabla would be useful for learning, for instance, polyrhythmic practice. As someone who started learning Tabla (and music) in my 30s, I don't even have the neurons in my brain for that kind of stuff. Just listening and playing along will be a huge aid in the absence of a live teacher.
Re: Show HN: SwaraNotebook – a notation editor for Indian classical music
#18Very nice, thanks for sharing! Some feedback (I'm not a musician and know very little, so take all this completely not seriously): • The tool would be easier to understand and get started, if you pre-populated it with some example songs (like the example notebook you linked in the post here, but which AFAICT isn't reachable from the tool itself). Even better if selecting a Raag/Rāga would automatically populate with…
Thanks for the detailed feedback | example song I guess having a default page pre-populated with an example song is nice for a demo or a first-time user. But for someone who wants to write a new song, having to delete the pre-populated song could be irksome. The default keyboard shows only the shuddha or regular swaras btw. I didn't follow what you meant by "the example notebook is not reachable for the tool". You co…
Just add a menu to add some sample pieces.
Re: Show HN: SwaraNotebook – a notation editor for Indian classical music
#19Nice app! How did you source the sounds? Are there permissively licensed tabla and santoor samples somewhere?
Re: Show HN: SwaraNotebook – a notation editor for Indian classical music
#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's cool! I'm a big fan of Ustad Tari Khan's tabla style. So what language would you write a composition in? Urdu, or English? I'm somewhat familiar with the bols since I learnt the Tabla a long time ago. 16 sounds a manageable number. Of course, putting together the audio samples to play a piece and making it sound non-robotic would be another challenge. But another question is: would you find such a tool useful?…
I would not use a written down version over a memorized version because it misses all the nuances of the piece. But a playable tool for Tabla would be useful for learning, for instance, polyrhythmic practice. As someone who started learning Tabla (and music) in my 30s, I don't even have the neurons in my brain for that kind of stuff. Just listening and playing along will be a huge aid in the absence of a live teacher…
Could you share an audio/video or written example of this?
If I understood correctly, you'd like the composition to be played first in 1x speed, and later in 2x or other speed (multiple times) so that it lands on the Sam.