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Re: Show HN: Firebase, a scalable real-time backend

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Post by IanDrake »

mayop100 wrote: post #7
IanDrake wrote: post #6

This is cool. But can someone explain how data is secured in Firebase or Meteor? From the Leader Board sample: // Use setWithPriority to put the name / score in Firebase, and set the priority to be the score. userScoreRef.setWithPriority({ name:name, score:newScore }, newScore); How about I just change newScore to 100,000 in the debug window?

Good catch : ) We mention this briefly in our FAQ. We actually do have security in place (notice you can't enumerate other people's data for instance in our own tutorial), but the API is far from complete and we have no docs yet. There will be a full-fledged security model coming over the next few months.

Thanks. It will be interesting to see how you guys do that.

Great website BTW.

Re: Show HN: Firebase, a scalable real-time backend

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Post by IanDrake »

javert wrote: post #9

Can't people find an alternative to the word "real-time" that hasn't already been used for 30 years to mean something entirely different? (As in, real-time systems, real-time operating systems, etc.) I'm not trying to put down Firebase, I imagine it's great.

Sorry - I think "real-time web" is already in our lexicon.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real-time_web#Real-time_search

Just make sure people say web after they say real-time and there should be no confusion.

Re: Show HN: Firebase, a scalable real-time backend

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Post by javert »

IanDrake wrote: post #13
javert wrote: post #9

Can't people find an alternative to the word "real-time" that hasn't already been used for 30 years to mean something entirely different? (As in, real-time systems, real-time operating systems, etc.) I'm not trying to put down Firebase, I imagine it's great.

Sorry - I think "real-time web" is already in our lexicon. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real-time_web#Real-time_search Just make sure people say web after they say real-time and there should be no confusion.

I don't think that it's a lost cause. Mainly because calling these things "real-time" is technically incorrect. Real-time computing is already formally defined and well established.

Given the definition of real-time, one could actually create a real-time web or a real-time search. So there is still cause for confusion--or, at least, technical incorrectness--if one uses that terminology.

Re: Show HN: Firebase, a scalable real-time backend

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Post by jdavid »

I was part of the beta and really enjoyed working with Firebase it was like working only in the browser, i could forget there was a backend.

Once you start playing with it you realize that there are so many apps that can be built.

the team has a few things to work on, and trust me many of us in the beta flushed a lot of those out. they have their work ahead of them. what's there is polished and ready for use. give it a try. use this as a chance to explore what can be done when you can forget about the backend.

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