Is it just me or has 12ft become less and less effective? I rarely get through with it these days.
I’ve rarely found it to be able to skip a paywall, I gave up after trying a few times.
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#12I got the feeling that these features should be part of a browser extension the same way as there are AdBlock extensions. I guess the reason it is not is "personal preference" of the author, or is there some technical reason?
I don't know for sure, but I would imagine there are more severe actions taken against circumventing paid material (content behind a paywall) than there is for free content supplemented by advertisements..
Edit : The Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) prohibits circumventing an effective technological means of control that restricts access to a copyrighted work. I guess that would apply here.
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#13I got the feeling that these features should be part of a browser extension the same way as there are AdBlock extensions. I guess the reason it is not is "personal preference" of the author, or is there some technical reason?
there is below extension for this purpose which I know of, I think there can be many more if we search for them
chrome and firefox extension for removing paywall: https://github.com/iamadamdev/bypass-paywalls-chrome
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#14I got the feeling that these features should be part of a browser extension the same way as there are AdBlock extensions. I guess the reason it is not is "personal preference" of the author, or is there some technical reason?
I don't know for sure, but I would imagine there are more severe actions taken against circumventing paid material (content behind a paywall) than there is for free content supplemented by advertisements.. Edit : The Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) prohibits circumventing an effective technological means of control that restricts access to a copyrighted work. I guess that would apply here.
Given how liberally the DMCA is applied, you definitely don't want to be on the wrong side of that.
I remember some guy that wrote a WoW bot and got sued using the DMCA, with the argument that his bot was circumventing the anti-cheat and the anti-cheat could be seen as a 'mechanism protecting copyrighted material', because it was safeguarding access to the game servers, the servers were generating parts of the game world (such as sounds) dynamically, and those were under copyright... Wild stuff.
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#15Is it just me or has 12ft become less and less effective? I rarely get through with it these days.
Their policies have apparently… changed. They accept donations to not have your website bypassed. Archive.org is much better. Edit: apparently it is down now. 402: PAYMENT_REQUIRED Code: DEPLOYMENT_DISABLED ID: fra1::8wkv2-1699275385535-39dedae23d6a
Is it donations they accept or legal threats?
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#16Relevant: 12ft.io was banned by Vercel, taking down the developer's entire account with multiple other hosted projects & domains: https://twitter.com/thmsmlr/status/1718663563353755982 Edit: Access to other projects & domains was apparently restored some time after: https://twitter.com/thmsmlr/status/1719480558932148272
Lovely, the Google classic "ban the world" approach -- I've been desperately trying to move my client off of vercel, this might just be the gasoline.
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#17Is it just me or has 12ft become less and less effective? I rarely get through with it these days.
Their policies have apparently… changed. They accept donations to not have your website bypassed. Archive.org is much better. Edit: apparently it is down now. 402: PAYMENT_REQUIRED Code: DEPLOYMENT_DISABLED ID: fra1::8wkv2-1699275385535-39dedae23d6a
Archive.today never fails compared to Archive.org or various browser extensions
To remove paywalls 12ft<Archive.org<Archive.today is my opinion.
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#18I got the feeling that these features should be part of a browser extension the same way as there are AdBlock extensions. I guess the reason it is not is "personal preference" of the author, or is there some technical reason?
I don't know for sure, but I would imagine there are more severe actions taken against circumventing paid material (content behind a paywall) than there is for free content supplemented by advertisements.. Edit : The Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) prohibits circumventing an effective technological means of control that restricts access to a copyrighted work. I guess that would apply here.
Good old section 1201. The EFF has been fighting it for a while, but hasn't had much success unfortunately.
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#19Is it just me or has 12ft become less and less effective? I rarely get through with it these days.
Before they went down it seemed that there were many big publishers who got the owner to disable it for their sites. Either that or the sites learned to actually not send their articles unless the user is logged in (and didn't care about googlebot not scanning it).
It was just an effective way to get through substack/medium in my experience.
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#20Relevant: 12ft.io was banned by Vercel, taking down the developer's entire account with multiple other hosted projects & domains: https://twitter.com/thmsmlr/status/1718663563353755982 Edit: Access to other projects & domains was apparently restored some time after: https://twitter.com/thmsmlr/status/1719480558932148272
Lovely, the Google classic "ban the world" approach -- I've been desperately trying to move my client off of vercel, this might just be the gasoline.
Aside from this (which is already very shitty and would cause the same response in me) what are the issues you’re running into with Vercel?