Be super careful inserting yourself as a reseller of GPUs (ShadeCloud).
You'll quickly find that your platforms primary use is to turn stolen credit cards into cryptominers.
Show HN: Shadeform – Single Platform and API for Provisioning GPUs
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#12It’s like Cloud66 but with the GPU in the headline, isn’t? What’s difference with Cloud66?
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#13Be super careful inserting yourself as a reseller of GPUs (ShadeCloud). You'll quickly find that your platforms primary use is to turn stolen credit cards into cryptominers.
crypto doesn't use gpus to mine any more. after ETH switched to PoS, the whole gpu mining world was decimated (thankfully). even on a free tier, you'd be lucky to get a few dollars a day, for a whole lot of upfront work.
that said, i agree that you do have to be careful reselling anything... people will find nefarious uses, it just isn't mining anymore.
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#14Be super careful inserting yourself as a reseller of GPUs (ShadeCloud). You'll quickly find that your platforms primary use is to turn stolen credit cards into cryptominers.
crypto doesn't use gpus to mine any more. after ETH switched to PoS, the whole gpu mining world was decimated (thankfully). even on a free tier, you'd be lucky to get a few dollars a day, for a whole lot of upfront work. that said, i agree that you do have to be careful reselling anything... people will find nefarious uses, it just isn't mining anymore.
Appreciate the feedback and will definitely watch out!
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#15Be super careful inserting yourself as a reseller of GPUs (ShadeCloud). You'll quickly find that your platforms primary use is to turn stolen credit cards into cryptominers.
crypto doesn't use gpus to mine any more. after ETH switched to PoS, the whole gpu mining world was decimated (thankfully). even on a free tier, you'd be lucky to get a few dollars a day, for a whole lot of upfront work. that said, i agree that you do have to be careful reselling anything... people will find nefarious uses, it just isn't mining anymore.
I'm not referring to normal users that are trying to generate ROI. When your actual cost is $0, even GPU mining Monero or shit coins is cash flow positive and relative low risk.
A "few dollars a day" is good money for people in some parts of the world.
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#16Earlier quoted context omitted.
crypto doesn't use gpus to mine any more. after ETH switched to PoS, the whole gpu mining world was decimated (thankfully). even on a free tier, you'd be lucky to get a few dollars a day, for a whole lot of upfront work. that said, i agree that you do have to be careful reselling anything... people will find nefarious uses, it just isn't mining anymore.
I'm not referring to normal users that are trying to generate ROI. When your actual cost is $0, even GPU mining Monero or shit coins is cash flow positive and relative low risk. A "few dollars a day" is good money for people in some parts of the world.
I didn’t discount what you said at all. I just clarified that mining is less of a concern these days. It isn’t even a few dollars a day at this point, it is pennies.
Monero is far more efficient to mine with CPUs, not GPUs.
Easy to mitigate with credit card signup and individual approval.
Go try to get an account with CoreWeave and you’ll see what I mean.
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#17- SSH access isn’t super useful. If I have to author a bootstrapping script for my system it’s too much friction. - the people who thrive at this use orchestration, like Slurm or Kubernetes. So the nodes I buy should join automatically to my orchestration control plane. - people who don’t use orchestration or don’t own their orchestration will not run big jobs or be repeat customers. It doesn’t make sense to use nons…
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#18Earlier quoted context omitted.
Thank you for the feedback. We're still early in this and are planning on moving in some of the directions you mentioned. - We agree that moving towards 'Karpenter for multiple clouds' would be more valuable for some use cases and hope to support that feature soon. - We do help customers with one-off quota requests, and it is a feature we want to bake into our platform on top of aggregating demand in our accounts. Ma…
Yeah I mean I’m sure you look at Karpenter and think “well it does everything for free, and the code to choose the cheapest node would be straightforward.” Kubernetes already has sophisticated scheduling algorithms that could consider price as a constraint. I can’t say what will people actually pay for, because CTOs and engineers are penny pinchers, they will go through a lot of pain to pay $0. They are the worst cus…
Time will tell but I think you're discounting the amount of amateur that will join the gold rush with a dream an angel and just enough knowledge to run a customized alpaca-lora job, looking for gpus while an outsider controls the runway.
This is an iPhone 3 level event, with new millionaires being created out of the LLM equivalent of the mobile fart button.
People selling tools of any kind will make bank.
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#19Congrats on the launch!
My co-founder and I always joke that there are only two hair-on-fire problems in 2023 and they can be summarised in 6 letters: GPU & PMF.
Really love what you're building.
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#20Congrats on the launch! My co-founder and I always joke that there are only two hair-on-fire problems in 2023 and they can be summarised in 6 letters: GPU & PMF. Really love what you're building.
What's PMF?