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Re: Show HN: Create Comics Using Stable Diffusion

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Post by com-adm »

com-adm wrote: post #8
thih9 wrote: post #3

How does it handle having to generate the same character in multiple consecutive panels? Can I define that character once and refer to them later, e.g. “John is looking at his phone”?

Simplest way is to use celebrities. You can mix them like "HenryCavillKeanuReeves" "KeanuReevesEmmaWatson" switch races/gender etc. since the model's training data contains lots of celebrities, it would be able to produce consistent images

in "Create Characters" page you can save characters(eg: jack), and later in the Prompt box in "Panel Creator" you can refer the characters with @ mention (eg: @jack looking at a phone) internally the prompt will be updated with the sub prompt for the character

Re: Show HN: Create Comics Using Stable Diffusion

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Post by com-adm »

Daub wrote: post #6

Mobile now so can't play with it Looks interesting. Does this only support manga or are Bande dessinée artists styles also possible?

should work on Mobile, but desktop would provide best experience. Other than Manga, it supports DC/Marvel style which uses a model trained specifically on western comics, but there is always the "General" style which is the base stable diffusion model which can create any style with a bit of prompt engineering

Re: Show HN: Create Comics Using Stable Diffusion

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Post by mejutoco »

satvikpendem wrote: post #2

Nice concept, just don't expect to have any copyright to the (images in the) comic, as the USPTO has mentioned [0]. If you used an AI text generator as well, expect to not have copyright to that either. Not that that's necessarily a bad thing, copyrights and patents are inherently anticompetitive. https://www.theverge.com/2023/2/22/23611278/midjourney-ai-co...

You could always retouch the images in photoshop. I believe that ruling was for fully generated AI, with no retouch afterwards.

Re: Show HN: Create Comics Using Stable Diffusion

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Post by achow »

com-adm wrote: post #10
jtemplestein wrote: post #5

How does this create consistent characters between frames? My understanding was that this is very hard to do reliably without dreambooth style fine tuning, which is expensive and slow

Simplest way is use celebrities, mix them together, switch their race/gender etc. More discussion here: https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/12djxvz/ho...

Link to the relevant comment..

https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/zv5mbq/sim...

Re: Show HN: Create Comics Using Stable Diffusion

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Post by Hamuko »

MattPalmer1086 wrote: post #9
satvikpendem wrote: post #2

Nice concept, just don't expect to have any copyright to the (images in the) comic, as the USPTO has mentioned [0]. If you used an AI text generator as well, expect to not have copyright to that either. Not that that's necessarily a bad thing, copyrights and patents are inherently anticompetitive. https://www.theverge.com/2023/2/22/23611278/midjourney-ai-co...

Lengthy copyright may be uncompetitive, but the absence of it would also be surely? If I create something and an already large business can just take it and use it without any recompense, doesn't that merely entrench their market position? Can you explain your reasoning?

>If I create something and an already large business can just take it and use it without any recompense, doesn't that merely entrench their market position?

Isn't that the entire basis of OpenAI and GPT?

Re: Show HN: Create Comics Using Stable Diffusion

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Post by danielheath »

MattPalmer1086 wrote: post #9
satvikpendem wrote: post #2

Nice concept, just don't expect to have any copyright to the (images in the) comic, as the USPTO has mentioned [0]. If you used an AI text generator as well, expect to not have copyright to that either. Not that that's necessarily a bad thing, copyrights and patents are inherently anticompetitive. https://www.theverge.com/2023/2/22/23611278/midjourney-ai-co...

Lengthy copyright may be uncompetitive, but the absence of it would also be surely? If I create something and an already large business can just take it and use it without any recompense, doesn't that merely entrench their market position? Can you explain your reasoning?

> If I create something and an already large business can just take it and use it without any recompense, doesn't that merely entrench their market position?

There's already numerous posts from artists claiming their work was copied verbatim (or near-verbatim) by major corps. Fighting it in court will take years and cost a fortune they don't have.

Re: Show HN: Create Comics Using Stable Diffusion

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Post by MattPalmer1086 »

danielheath wrote: post #17
MattPalmer1086 wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lengthy copyright may be uncompetitive, but the absence of it would also be surely? If I create something and an already large business can just take it and use it without any recompense, doesn't that merely entrench their market position? Can you explain your reasoning?

> If I create something and an already large business can just take it and use it without any recompense, doesn't that merely entrench their market position? There's already numerous posts from artists claiming their work was copied verbatim (or near-verbatim) by major corps. Fighting it in court will take years and cost a fortune they don't have.

That may be, but is the solution to get rid of what little protection they legally have?

Re: Show HN: Create Comics Using Stable Diffusion

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Post by mirashii »

mejutoco wrote: post #14
satvikpendem wrote: post #2

Nice concept, just don't expect to have any copyright to the (images in the) comic, as the USPTO has mentioned [0]. If you used an AI text generator as well, expect to not have copyright to that either. Not that that's necessarily a bad thing, copyrights and patents are inherently anticompetitive. https://www.theverge.com/2023/2/22/23611278/midjourney-ai-co...

You could always retouch the images in photoshop. I believe that ruling was for fully generated AI, with no retouch afterwards.

That interpretation probably does not pass muster. The guidance from the US Copyright Office leans on substantial human authorship or creative changes or interpretation of the output of AI generative tools.

Probably better to just link the actual guidance, it’s only a couple pages.

https://copyright.gov/ai/ai_policy_guidance.pdf

Re: Show HN: Create Comics Using Stable Diffusion

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Post by mirashii »

thih9 wrote: post #4
satvikpendem wrote: post #2

Nice concept, just don't expect to have any copyright to the (images in the) comic, as the USPTO has mentioned [0]. If you used an AI text generator as well, expect to not have copyright to that either. Not that that's necessarily a bad thing, copyrights and patents are inherently anticompetitive. https://www.theverge.com/2023/2/22/23611278/midjourney-ai-co...

What if the human author considers the AI as a tool and does not credit the AI in any way?

> If the Office becomes aware that information essential to its evaluation of registrability “has been omitted entirely from the application or is questionable,” it may take steps to cancel the registration. 44 Separately, a court may disregard a registration in an infringement action pursuant to section 411(b) of the Copyright Act if it concludes that the applicant knowingly provided the Office with inaccurate information, and the accurate information would have resulted in the refusal of the registration.

From https://copyright.gov/ai/ai_policy_guidance.pdf

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