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> ChatGPT Plus is crazy expensive $20 per month is not crazy expensive relative to the value it provides.
Depends on your usage, I guess. I personnaly couldn't justify it. In the last few weeks, I've used the API extensively and total cost comes to a few dollars max. Admittedly, the API doesn't provide nearly as many features as ChatGPT Plus does. To each their own !
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#12Earlier quoted context omitted.
> ChatGPT Plus is crazy expensive $20 per month is not crazy expensive relative to the value it provides.
Depends on your usage, I guess. I personnaly couldn't justify it. In the last few weeks, I've used the API extensively and total cost comes to a few dollars max. Admittedly, the API doesn't provide nearly as many features as ChatGPT Plus does. To each their own !
A lot of the ChatGPT Plus features are features of the wrapper rather than the model, sure. Then again, that’s what things like Langchain are for, right?
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Multiple factors made me implement this: - ChatGPT Plus is crazy expensive, and the free tier is often down. I found it especially frustrating to not get access to my chat history when ChatGPT's load was high. Since alternative clients go through the API, their are exempt from load balancing. - A native client is lightweight and doesn't rely on web technologies. This is a matter of personal taste, but I like the look…
> ChatGPT Plus is crazy expensive $20 per month is not crazy expensive relative to the value it provides.
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#14I was surprised at how much easier it was to use a native interface and have everything work so smoothly. I like the GUI touches (icons for new conversations, etc.). Very mac-like.
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#15I'd love it if it gave me more info about the differences between some of the available models. I've been using GPT4 exclusively from the web interface; I don't know why I might select GPT4 vs GPT4-0314. I believe I do know why I want to use 32k, but others might not.
Basically, I'd want an explanation as to how these differ from what's available in the ChatGPT web-app.
The default temperature is 0.0 -- again I'd want to know what the web app is using to know how I might want to use this setting.
edit: I guess an answer is my API key is only valid for 3.5 anyway. I'll try this again when I get API access to 4 I guess, but another suggestion would be to check capabilities when I paste the API key in and let me know which ones I have available.
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#18This is cool, I like native apps better. Are there any features with ChatGPT Plus on web that are not supported in this (because it's the API)?
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#19Very cool. I'd love it if it gave me more info about the differences between some of the available models. I've been using GPT4 exclusively from the web interface; I don't know why I might select GPT4 vs GPT4-0314. I believe I do know why I want to use 32k, but others might not. Basically, I'd want an explanation as to how these differ from what's available in the ChatGPT web-app. The default temperature is 0.0 -- ag…
As for the default temperature, 0.0 is actually a bug ! I'll definitely fix that in the next release. The default intended value is 1.0. The API reference [1] describes what the temperature parameter does in more detail.
While doing some testing, I also noticed that the app disables streamed responses by default. Make sure to check the appropriate checkbox in the settings to get token-per-token answers !
[1] https://platform.openai.com/docs/api-reference/chat/create
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#20Out of curiosity, what does a native app offer in this context that using ChatGPT in a browser tab doesn't? I understand you can add shortcuts such as opening it and starting a new chat, but outside of that?
Multiple factors made me implement this: - ChatGPT Plus is crazy expensive, and the free tier is often down. I found it especially frustrating to not get access to my chat history when ChatGPT's load was high. Since alternative clients go through the API, their are exempt from load balancing. - A native client is lightweight and doesn't rely on web technologies. This is a matter of personal taste, but I like the look…