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Re: Show HN: Machato — A native macOS client for ChatGPT

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> ChatGPT Plus is crazy expensive $20 per month is not crazy expensive relative to the value it provides.

Depends on your usage, I guess. I personnaly couldn't justify it. In the last few weeks, I've used the API extensively and total cost comes to a few dollars max. Admittedly, the API doesn't provide nearly as many features as ChatGPT Plus does. To each their own !

Not even kidding, I would pay $1000 USD per month for GPT4 access.

Re: Show HN: Machato — A native macOS client for ChatGPT

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> ChatGPT Plus is crazy expensive $20 per month is not crazy expensive relative to the value it provides.

Depends on your usage, I guess. I personnaly couldn't justify it. In the last few weeks, I've used the API extensively and total cost comes to a few dollars max. Admittedly, the API doesn't provide nearly as many features as ChatGPT Plus does. To each their own !

> Admittedly, the API doesn’t provide nearly as many features as ChatGPT Plus does.

A lot of the ChatGPT Plus features are features of the wrapper rather than the model, sure. Then again, that’s what things like Langchain are for, right?

Re: Show HN: Machato — A native macOS client for ChatGPT

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Multiple factors made me implement this: - ChatGPT Plus is crazy expensive, and the free tier is often down. I found it especially frustrating to not get access to my chat history when ChatGPT's load was high. Since alternative clients go through the API, their are exempt from load balancing. - A native client is lightweight and doesn't rely on web technologies. This is a matter of personal taste, but I like the look…

> ChatGPT Plus is crazy expensive $20 per month is not crazy expensive relative to the value it provides.

*$20USD per month ($30AUD), which is pretty damn expensive when you don't live in the USA. The USD has been inflated in value for so long now we have to be careful what we buy in that currency.

Re: Show HN: Machato — A native macOS client for ChatGPT

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Very cool.

I'd love it if it gave me more info about the differences between some of the available models. I've been using GPT4 exclusively from the web interface; I don't know why I might select GPT4 vs GPT4-0314. I believe I do know why I want to use 32k, but others might not.

Basically, I'd want an explanation as to how these differ from what's available in the ChatGPT web-app.

The default temperature is 0.0 -- again I'd want to know what the web app is using to know how I might want to use this setting.

edit: I guess an answer is my API key is only valid for 3.5 anyway. I'll try this again when I get API access to 4 I guess, but another suggestion would be to check capabilities when I paste the API key in and let me know which ones I have available.

Re: Show HN: Machato — A native macOS client for ChatGPT

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This is cool, I like native apps better. Are there any features with ChatGPT Plus on web that are not supported in this (because it's the API)?

Yes. The new ChatGPT Plugins are not yet supported outside of the official web interface. Other than that, most third party client actually allow more customization (custom system prompt, temperature adjustment, ...)

Re: Show HN: Machato — A native macOS client for ChatGPT

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Very cool. I'd love it if it gave me more info about the differences between some of the available models. I've been using GPT4 exclusively from the web interface; I don't know why I might select GPT4 vs GPT4-0314. I believe I do know why I want to use 32k, but others might not. Basically, I'd want an explanation as to how these differ from what's available in the ChatGPT web-app. The default temperature is 0.0 -- ag…

The UI sure needs a bit of work. I'll try to add more information about the different models.

As for the default temperature, 0.0 is actually a bug ! I'll definitely fix that in the next release. The default intended value is 1.0. The API reference [1] describes what the temperature parameter does in more detail.

While doing some testing, I also noticed that the app disables streamed responses by default. Make sure to check the appropriate checkbox in the settings to get token-per-token answers !

[1] https://platform.openai.com/docs/api-reference/chat/create

Re: Show HN: Machato — A native macOS client for ChatGPT

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Out of curiosity, what does a native app offer in this context that using ChatGPT in a browser tab doesn't? I understand you can add shortcuts such as opening it and starting a new chat, but outside of that?

Multiple factors made me implement this: - ChatGPT Plus is crazy expensive, and the free tier is often down. I found it especially frustrating to not get access to my chat history when ChatGPT's load was high. Since alternative clients go through the API, their are exempt from load balancing. - A native client is lightweight and doesn't rely on web technologies. This is a matter of personal taste, but I like the look…

it's $20/mo... that's pretty cheap no?
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