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Re: Show HN: Reveddit.com: Improving online discourse with transparent moderation

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Do you still display content removed by their authors and not the moderators?

My focus has always been to reveal secretive removals to authors, and Reveddit has never shown author-deleted body text, https://www.reveddit.com/about/faq/#user-deleted

Thanks! I may have thought about removeddit by mistake.

Re: Show HN: Reveddit.com: Improving online discourse with transparent moderation

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I love reveddit.com, it's hilarious to look at the typical r/science post and see 60%+ of comments removed on average (the 'controversial' ones go 75%+). Yeah I mention r/science at 7:00 in the linked video. > If the moderators agree with the study there is zero dissent tolerated. This subreddit has something like 1000+ moderators and they remove any comments that doesn't fit into Reddit's very narrowly defined ove…

Blocking trackers is a feature not a bug. Disagreeing with what belongs on the list is fine of course but it isn't a bug. IMO Reddit belongs there equally as much or as little as Google and Facebook.

> Blocking trackers is a feature not a bug.

I didn't say it was a bug, I said the list of websites broken by that feature are tracked in a bug.

Re: Show HN: Reveddit.com: Improving online discourse with transparent moderation

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Wow, great. Of course I'm getting shadow censored left and right on reddit, but I always knew it was the case.

I'm not using reddit anymore anyway. Too many hidden rules, not even as a simple user, but as a sub creator, where you can't tell your own sub redditors why their comment were removed, per reddit admin rules, that's absolutely crazy, and if you disclose the hidden rules, your sub is banned.

Re: Show HN: Reveddit.com: Improving online discourse with transparent moderation

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I love reveddit.com, it's hilarious to look at the typical r/science post and see 60%+ of comments removed on average (the 'controversial' ones go 75%+). If the moderators agree with the study there is zero dissent tolerated. This subreddit has something like 1000+ moderators and they remove any comments that doesn't fit into Reddit's very narrowly defined overton window. Not just people being off-topic or taboo... b…

> I love reveddit.com, it's hilarious to look at the typical r/science post and see 60%+ of comments removed on average (the 'controversial' ones go 75%+). Yeah I mention r/science at 7:00 in the linked video. > If the moderators agree with the study there is zero dissent tolerated. This subreddit has something like 1000+ moderators and they remove any comments that doesn't fit into Reddit's very narrowly defined ove…

> I don't know of a better solution. I'm all ears if you have one

No, that makes sense. I see you've added a modal that explains how to get it to work with FF. My bad, I think I used Unddit in the past which didn't say this. I'll use Reveddit instead.

Besides maybe a web extension that somehow bypasses those controls? (idk if that works).

> Yeah I mention r/science at 7:00 in the linked video.

Thanks I'll watch the video tomorrow. Appreciate your work.

Re: Show HN: Reveddit.com: Improving online discourse with transparent moderation

#15

Wow, great. Of course I'm getting shadow censored left and right on reddit, but I always knew it was the case. I'm not using reddit anymore anyway. Too many hidden rules, not even as a simple user, but as a sub creator, where you can't tell your own sub redditors why their comment were removed, per reddit admin rules, that's absolutely crazy, and if you disclose the hidden rules, your sub is banned.

> I'm not using reddit anymore anyway.

Secretive removals happen on all of the platforms (see 5:50 in the talk [1]).

Plus, the groups who are brainwashed by it are large enough to have an impact in the real world. I don't think it benefits anyone. We're much better off knowing when conversations have been interrupted.

[1] https://cantsayanything.win/2022-10-transparent-moderation/

Re: Show HN: Reveddit.com: Improving online discourse with transparent moderation

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post #6
post #3

I love reveddit.com, it's hilarious to look at the typical r/science post and see 60%+ of comments removed on average (the 'controversial' ones go 75%+). If the moderators agree with the study there is zero dissent tolerated. This subreddit has something like 1000+ moderators and they remove any comments that doesn't fit into Reddit's very narrowly defined overton window. Not just people being off-topic or taboo... b…

> I love reveddit.com, it's hilarious to look at the typical r/science post and see 60%+ of comments removed on average (the 'controversial' ones go 75%+). Yeah I mention r/science at 7:00 in the linked video. > If the moderators agree with the study there is zero dissent tolerated. This subreddit has something like 1000+ moderators and they remove any comments that doesn't fit into Reddit's very narrowly defined ove…

One more question I just thought of. When I use services like Reveddit I often notice [removed too quickly] where I'm guessing moderators get to it before the scraper can archive it.

What type of timeframe do you guys typically work with before it gets removed? Any ideas on how to improve the capture times?

Also are you looking for dev help with your project?

Re: Show HN: Reveddit.com: Improving online discourse with transparent moderation

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post #14
post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I love reveddit.com, it's hilarious to look at the typical r/science post and see 60%+ of comments removed on average (the 'controversial' ones go 75%+). Yeah I mention r/science at 7:00 in the linked video. > If the moderators agree with the study there is zero dissent tolerated. This subreddit has something like 1000+ moderators and they remove any comments that doesn't fit into Reddit's very narrowly defined ove…

> I don't know of a better solution. I'm all ears if you have one No, that makes sense. I see you've added a modal that explains how to get it to work with FF. My bad, I think I used Unddit in the past which didn't say this. I'll use Reveddit instead. Besides maybe a web extension that somehow bypasses those controls? (idk if that works). > Yeah I mention r/science at 7:00 in the linked video. Thanks I'll watch the v…

> I see you've added a modal that explains how to get it to work with FF. My bad, I think I used Unddit in the past which didn't say this. I'll use Reveddit instead.

No worries. I'll just share the differences with Unddit here for any interested. AFAIK Unddit only works with threads, whereas Reveddit works with nearly any type of Reddit page, including subreddits and domains. And last I checked, Unddit shows a limited number of comments up front, whereas Reveddit loads them all. So if a thread has more than 1,000 comments, and you visit an Unddit link, it might be missing some, and you won't know to check for more unless you know how the site works. In my opinion, that's unintuitive, so I choose to load everything up front. Also, Unddit shows user-deleted comments [1] while Reveddit does not [2].

The most distinguishing features of Reveddit IMO are that it works with user pages, can restore comments from user pages, has an extension that can notify you of removals when they occur [3], it has more filters, sort options, etc.

> Besides maybe a web extension that somehow bypasses those controls? (idk if that works).

Well that's basically what the modal describes. You can customize where you want to turn it off, no extension needed.

[1] https://www.reddit.com/r/pushshift/comments/qiwurl/what_happ...

[2] https://www.reveddit.com/about/faq/#user-deleted

[3] https://www.reveddit.com/add-ons/direct/

Re: Show HN: Reveddit.com: Improving online discourse with transparent moderation

#20

Wow, great. Of course I'm getting shadow censored left and right on reddit, but I always knew it was the case. I'm not using reddit anymore anyway. Too many hidden rules, not even as a simple user, but as a sub creator, where you can't tell your own sub redditors why their comment were removed, per reddit admin rules, that's absolutely crazy, and if you disclose the hidden rules, your sub is banned.

What exactly are these hidden rules that you arent allowed to disclose?
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