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Re: Show HN: Minimalist offline journal app with a chat interface

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post #5

At first I thought it was broken in Firefox 94.0.2 for me. Then I realised that form in the middle of the page was just an image. I also thought the light/dark mode toggle in the middle was real as well.

Face palm moment indeed. I was actually kinda proud of the redesigned landing page, but yes, the image needs to be separated from the copy, maybe with a clear border.

Re: Show HN: Minimalist offline journal app with a chat interface

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The best journaling app is anything that opens a markdown file. You can always build the workflow that suits you best.

I'd like to differentiate between journaling and note-taking. And I do enjoy software that's designed for a specific purpose. e.g.: VS Code for code, Typora for Markdown, Roam for outlines. Markdown file is a great way for persistence, I find the formatting although great for expressing complex and structured thoughts and ideas, a bit redundant for my casual journaling needs (plus no timestamps per log, which I find useful to preserve the context). I do recommend Logseq or Obsidian for longer form note-taking. I also find ZenJournal could be a decent gateway to your other workflows: you log on the go from the phone and transfer the logs back to your other workflows. :)

Re: Show HN: Minimalist offline journal app with a chat interface

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Love the idea! I am installing it right now and will get the pro to support you. I have a question about backup/restore. What is the backup format? A markdown/plain text would be best for archival purposes, especially for a journal that might be read far into the future. I get that it is offline, but having a journal on one device only without is a double edged sword. If I lose my phone, I lose my journal. Would it be possible to sync it to iCloud? Then it would be easier to have it on multiple devices as well. Thanks for making this!

Edit: After playing around with the app, I see that the backup is a zip with a json file and images. That is great for archival.

Re: Show HN: Minimalist offline journal app with a chat interface

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post #9

This is great! Do you know if this can run an M1 mac? I would like to journal on a laptop versus my phone.

Oh good question, I just tried this the first time, it does! It runs as an iPad app though, and everything seems to be working? :D My plan is to add some log merging functions, so you can eventually merge your logs from your phone to your Mac and vice versa. Thanks!

Thanks for checking, will try it when I get home

Re: Show HN: Minimalist offline journal app with a chat interface

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Love the idea! I am installing it right now and will get the pro to support you. I have a question about backup/restore. What is the backup format? A markdown/plain text would be best for archival purposes, especially for a journal that might be read far into the future. I get that it is offline, but having a journal on one device only without is a double edged sword. If I lose my phone, I lose my journal. Would it b…

The backup format is a simple zip with a folder `assets/` that contains all the images, and a `logs.json` file that contains all the logs, which itself is a simple array with `createdAt, text, image` as keys.

Yes, the offline thing is kinda a hurdle to many. The way I'm convincing myself: if I log from multiple devices and backup often, I get some sort of offline partial replication? :D iCloud is great in its partition of user data so the devs don't have access to it, so yes if I were to support auto sync, iCloud would be top of the list. NextCloud is also on the table.

Thank you for the support!

Re: Show HN: Minimalist offline journal app with a chat interface

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One previous thread:

Show HN: ZenJournal – Fast journal app with chat interface - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21876939 - Dec 2019 (25 comments)

(Reposts are ok after a year or so: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html. Links like this are just for readers who may be curious for more.)

Re: Show HN: Minimalist offline journal app with a chat interface

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Love the idea! I am installing it right now and will get the pro to support you. I have a question about backup/restore. What is the backup format? A markdown/plain text would be best for archival purposes, especially for a journal that might be read far into the future. I get that it is offline, but having a journal on one device only without is a double edged sword. If I lose my phone, I lose my journal. Would it b…

The backup format is a simple zip with a folder `assets/` that contains all the images, and a `logs.json` file that contains all the logs, which itself is a simple array with `createdAt, text, image` as keys. Yes, the offline thing is kinda a hurdle to many. The way I'm convincing myself: if I log from multiple devices and backup often, I get some sort of offline partial replication? :D iCloud is great in its partiti…

Please add iCloud! I just subscribed today. I really see the value in your app but just want optional no-thinking backup.

Re: Show HN: Minimalist offline journal app with a chat interface

#18
post #8

I think it would be fun to have Whatsapp integration, and I can easily send pictures, notes, voice notes etc to the journal. The other part could be to have a simple chat bot that provides prompts throughout the day, like "what are you doing right now?" or "take a selfie with whoever you're with."

Interesting. I've seen people using telegram to post messages to their Roam graph, it will require some significant work considering this is an offline-only app. But then again, if I do support all these log types, why not just go to the app directly? I do like your auto prompt feature and have thought about it as well (or even support different scripted prompts as plugins), some people do like the prompt and structure, maybe someday when there is enough user interests...

Re: Show HN: Minimalist offline journal app with a chat interface

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post #16

One previous thread: Show HN: ZenJournal – Fast journal app with chat interface - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21876939 - Dec 2019 (25 comments) (Reposts are ok after a year or so: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html . Links like this are just for readers who may be curious for more.)

Thanks for the added context! It's been almost 2 years of idleness from me. Although I've released the android version and few small changes in between, I wish one day I'm updating the app frequently enough that I need to post every year. :D
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