Anyone have other "novelty" terraform providers which are interesting to share?
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#12Anyone have other "novelty" terraform providers which are interesting to share?
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#13Is this the future of Factorio blueprints? Is this the birth of FactoriOps?
Unlikely. For people who do want to "play the game" so to speak (aka: make a 1kspm factory or rocket-per-minute factory), the methodologies for achieving that are pretty well known at this point in the community. The "blueprints" you need are mostly rail-blueprints (quickly building rail-lines and miners that connect into your greater design). The "logic" of Factorio factories are... unfortunately too simple. All res…
That was a joke :)
But for the argument's sake, imagine being able to collaborate with other players on Git, with a PR based workflow, wouldn't it be cool? Even if it's totally useless and inefficient?
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#14Earlier quoted context omitted.
Unlikely. For people who do want to "play the game" so to speak (aka: make a 1kspm factory or rocket-per-minute factory), the methodologies for achieving that are pretty well known at this point in the community. The "blueprints" you need are mostly rail-blueprints (quickly building rail-lines and miners that connect into your greater design). The "logic" of Factorio factories are... unfortunately too simple. All res…
That was a joke :) But for the argument's sake, imagine being able to collaborate with other players on Git, with a PR based workflow, wouldn't it be cool? Even if it's totally useless and inefficient?
Verilog shows that a hardware description language is useful, and I bet that real-world computer designs are more complicated than anything that happens in Factorio.
Still though: it brings to mind what exactly a text-based language that describes Factorio factories would even look like? I feel like the creation of 8-beacon PM3 assembly machine arrays is simple enough to be automatically generated (ratios can be already calculated in calculators like https://kirkmcdonald.github.io/... the "routing" piece of the puzzle needs to be solved though).
An "autorouter" that determines how many belts / pipes / trains are needed would need to be automatically programmed.
Once such a magic program were created, the "program" written would almost certainly be:
"Create 1000-space science per minute and feed it into a science array".
The ratios of what make 1000-science are determined in stone (assuming PM3 is set in stone to make sure that ratios don't change).
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Its the implementation details that are all the fun in Factorio. How do you build the thousands of PM3 modules you need to make a 1000-space science per minute base? Oh, but to build those, you need to have 2GW of power. How do you build a nuclear reactor of that size?
Etc. etc.
All of those problems have solutions that the community already created. But the fun of Factorio is coming up with your own solution. Not relying upon some kind of shared-github based workflow.
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Alternatively: there are other designs (ex: "Speedrunner designs") that optimize on number of clicks instead of the optimal number of resources. Click-and-dragging red-inserters all over the place uses far fewer clicks than using yellow/blue/green inserters as appropriate, but the red-inserter is grossly suboptimal.
Still though, by using one inserter type, you quickly standardize your designs and "speedrun" the game faster. The resource inefficiency is wiped out by the far fewer clicks needed to create the overall design.
So I guess that's the thing about Factorio. The fun in the game is in making your own goals and then solving the stuff in your own way.
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#15Anyone have other "novelty" terraform providers which are interesting to share?
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#16Anyone have other "novelty" terraform providers which are interesting to share?
Self promo: https://github.com/conradludgate/terraform-provider-spotify
The terraform education team actually contacted me about this provider last week, I think they're going to turn it into a tutorial
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#19Finally got around to hacking up my own mod for factorio a month or so ago (bigger cargo wagons). As with the rest of their work, the "how to make a mod" process and documentation is exemplary. There's accurate documentation for everything, pretty much, provided by the developers, and kept up to date. Contrasted with other games where "the community" and developers request docs and examples be taken down if someone t…
It especially helps that the game itself is written as a mod, so they need good documentation internally anyways.
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#20It's good to see that Terraform switched to gRPC for invoking plugins. The old Go serialization dissuaded me from trying to write any.