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Show HN: Human Lambdas – Create Human in the Loop queues and outsource them
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#12You know, this exact same idea could be done in such a way that doesn't dehumanize the, uh, humans. In fact, I bet your mileage would even increase if you could figure out a way to actually respect even the grunt laborers. That is, I like the idea of streamlining your workflow, of compartmentalizing, of assembly lining. I like the ideas of integrating that which can be fully automated with what cannot. And of making…
> If they feel they are being "cogged", they will work like cogs
Most people who get into Turking know they're going to be cogs, and honestly, the only thing they care about is getting paid properly for it.
No pie-in-the-sky marketing BS is going to make up for sub minimum wage compensation.
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#13You know, this exact same idea could be done in such a way that doesn't dehumanize the, uh, humans. In fact, I bet your mileage would even increase if you could figure out a way to actually respect even the grunt laborers. That is, I like the idea of streamlining your workflow, of compartmentalizing, of assembly lining. I like the ideas of integrating that which can be fully automated with what cannot. And of making…
> If they feel they are being "cogged", they will work like cogs Most people who get into Turking know they're going to be cogs, and honestly, the only thing they care about is getting paid properly for it. No pie-in-the-sky marketing BS is going to make up for sub minimum wage compensation.
Getting paid properly is important of course, but intrinsic motivation (of which a sense of autonomy is an important driver) is very important to keep workers happy, independent of whether they're doing crowdsourcing work or just a regular job.
I find it hard to believe that this platform will be competing against Amazon Mechanical Turk on price, so they'll have to compete in other dimensions. Increasing worker motivation to improve the quality of the output is a win-win for all the stakeholders, so IMO it's worth pursuing.
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#14I honestly can't tell if this is satire or no; leaning towards former
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#15This is great - I could use something like this (without having to face into Mechanical Turk), and definitely would use this if the pricing was right.
What's the pricing structure?
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#16"Human Lambdas"… "Mechanical Turk"… you're fully aware these are horrible names for horrible ideas, right?
This is how the sausage get's made.
If you work inside the meat industry, the room where animals get slaughtered is called the kill chamber. It's not called the "cattle life transition chamber" because it is self-aware and it's better to call a spade a spade.
Re: Show HN: Human Lambdas – Create Human in the Loop queues and outsource them
#17This looks like a great piece of tooling for when you don't need a full workflow system.
What other similar solution are in this space?
Re: Show HN: Human Lambdas – Create Human in the Loop queues and outsource them
#18You know, this exact same idea could be done in such a way that doesn't dehumanize the, uh, humans. In fact, I bet your mileage would even increase if you could figure out a way to actually respect even the grunt laborers. That is, I like the idea of streamlining your workflow, of compartmentalizing, of assembly lining. I like the ideas of integrating that which can be fully automated with what cannot. And of making…
Sounds like a lot of work. Instead, let's just keep maximizing income inequality. This way there will always be someone in the position to treat humans like the cogs they are!
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#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
> If they feel they are being "cogged", they will work like cogs Most people who get into Turking know they're going to be cogs, and honestly, the only thing they care about is getting paid properly for it. No pie-in-the-sky marketing BS is going to make up for sub minimum wage compensation.
Getting paid properly is important of course, but intrinsic motivation (of which a sense of autonomy is an important driver) is very important to keep workers happy, independent of whether they're doing crowdsourcing work or just a regular job. I find it hard to believe that this platform will be competing against Amazon Mechanical Turk on price, so they'll have to compete in other dimensions. Increasing worker motiv…
Good luck convincing workers that they are self-actualising while transcribing financial records from hard-to-read receipts.
If you are running a team doing this sort of work, it's better to be straight up with them and say "you know, this work is boring and repetitive, but we have a good team, look after each other, and you can listen to a podcast at the same time".
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#20"Human Lambdas"… "Mechanical Turk"… you're fully aware these are horrible names for horrible ideas, right?
This is how the sausage get's made. If you work inside the meat industry, the room where animals get slaughtered is called the kill chamber. It's not called the "cattle life transition chamber" because it is self-aware and it's better to call a spade a spade.
That might not be a great example. The meat industry is pretty notorious for euphemisms. They're usually called "meat processing plants" rather than "slaughterhouses". When farmers need to conduct a mass extermination (more officially referred to as "depopulation"), one common technique is to shut off the air supply to the barn which causes the heat to rise so the animals suffocate and roast to death. The technical term for that technique is "ventilation shutdown". And that's all without getting into whether terms like "meat", "sausage", "beef", "pork", etc. are just polite ways of saying "parts of animal corpses" and "livestock" as "animals that we feel are acceptable to kill."