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#11

Blockchain is overhypered nonsense 99.9999% of the time. But seriously this is the one in a billion projects where you should use the Bitcoin blockchain as much as I hate to say it

What feature would a blockchain give them that they can't have now in a simpler way?

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#12

Congrats on releasing it! The same idea was on my todo list for almost a decade:) Have you figured out how to promote it (that's what stopped me from implementing the thing)?

Thanks. Some people sometimes post hash of a prediction on Twitter https://twitter.com/patio11/status/1241551327743770624. If some "influencers" can start using Futuure that can be a good driver

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#13

I wonder whether predictions (aka "poks") are stored in encrypted form in their database? Knowing what people think will happen in the future is obviously rather useful information.

Hey, I am the main dev behind this. The poks are currently not encrypted because there is no way to fundamentally allow a decryption later without someone having the key the whole time, which defeats the purpose. But we're looking into potential with applications stored in Ethereum or something! In the meantime we are committed to not use, and not even look at the content before their release

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#14

Great idea! Just submitted my first pok. Feature request: User groups and pok access levels. Restrict pok access down to a given set of users. I imagine that a large share of the pok volume does not (and should not) concern the wider public. For example, I could have a group with my buddies, and register a pok wrt my best friend breaking up with their partner. This group concept could be exploited in the form of a pl…

Very good point! We thought about it and should implement it rather soon

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I wonder whether predictions (aka "poks") are stored in encrypted form in their database? Knowing what people think will happen in the future is obviously rather useful information.

Hey, I am the main dev behind this. The poks are currently not encrypted because there is no way to fundamentally allow a decryption later without someone having the key the whole time, which defeats the purpose. But we're looking into potential with applications stored in Ethereum or something! In the meantime we are committed to not use, and not even look at the content before their release

True, it's not the same as hashing a password and comparing hashes - you need to decrypt your data.

Encryption adds one layer of obfuscation for a bad actor that might steal the database but does not get their hands on the key. Plus access to the key can be managed differently than access to the database.

Either way, it comes down to sensitivity of the predictions made and how users would react should they be exposed before their due dates.

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#16

Blockchain is overhypered nonsense 99.9999% of the time. But seriously this is the one in a billion projects where you should use the Bitcoin blockchain as much as I hate to say it

What feature would a blockchain give them that they can't have now in a simpler way?

A proof that the pok and its hash hasn't been altered since its creation.

Re: Show HN: Futuure – hash-certified public prediction store

#17

Cool stuff. Automates the process we do on Twitter where we post the hash and then a scheduled tweet revealing. Sadly, a list of hashes isn't that interesting. So it's not that interesting to read current list.

Like when Patrick McKenzie (@patio11) posted a hash about some Covid nonsense he wanted to be right about?

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#18

Cool stuff. Automates the process we do on Twitter where we post the hash and then a scheduled tweet revealing. Sadly, a list of hashes isn't that interesting. So it's not that interesting to read current list.

Might be more interesting to read once some predictions get unsealed.

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#19

Cool stuff. Automates the process we do on Twitter where we post the hash and then a scheduled tweet revealing. Sadly, a list of hashes isn't that interesting. So it's not that interesting to read current list.

Like when Patrick McKenzie (@patio11) posted a hash about some Covid nonsense he wanted to be right about?

If it’s about releasing information on schedule that’s verifiably created with a datetime stamp and maybe also by user, then it’s not really about predictions, it’s more than that. It could be used for any info, and then verification is available for the who and when.

The thing though that would make this worthwhile would be if it were decentralized, because you want universal verification and independence of some third-party breaking if its like a contract. While they could act as a law office or official records office that keeps the contract, deed, or certificate on-file, I’d not keep the only copy of something important with a startup that could go out of business and has no requirement to keep my data or secure its future, so I’d hope there’s something for that.

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