Could you do this as an Adobe (Photoshop) add-on? Wouldn't that be a bigger market?
Photoshop is used less and less by designers, with tools like Sketch and Figma taking over. Also, usually the developers would prefer to handle compression.
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#12Off-topic, but at the bottom of the page there is this quote from Jay Walker at TED 2008: > “It takes the energy in one lump of coal to move 1 MB of information across the net.” I wonder if it's still true today, 10 years later.
Was it ever true?
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#13Could you do this as an Adobe (Photoshop) add-on? Wouldn't that be a bigger market?
Photoshop is used less and less by designers, with tools like Sketch and Figma taking over. Also, usually the developers would prefer to handle compression.
I'd be delighted if designers gave me compressed assets.
Re: Show HN: Optimage – Advanced image optimization tool
#14I currently use ImgBot[1] to optimize all my assets in my GitHub repo. Works well.
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#15Off-topic, but at the bottom of the page there is this quote from Jay Walker at TED 2008: > “It takes the energy in one lump of coal to move 1 MB of information across the net.” I wonder if it's still true today, 10 years later.
What is the size of one "lump"?
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#16Off-topic, but at the bottom of the page there is this quote from Jay Walker at TED 2008: > “It takes the energy in one lump of coal to move 1 MB of information across the net.” I wonder if it's still true today, 10 years later.
No. I'm skeptical that it was true then, for reasonable values of "lump."
One lump of coal: 25 grams
(Per https://books.google.com/books?id=HLFJAAAAYAAJ&pg=RA5-PA20&l... )
Annual internet traffic: 122,088,000,000,000 MB in 2008, 1,152,648,000,000,000 MB in 2016
(petabytes per month to megabytes per year: multiply by 1.2 * 10^10)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_traffic
There are 40,000 coal lumps of 25 grams per tonne of coal.
That would put moving-information-across-the-net energy consumption at 3 billion tonnes (3.4 billion short tons) of coal in 2008. That's about 44% of world coal production in 2008.
If it took 1 lump of coal per MB in 2016, that would be about 29 billion tonnes of coal (32 billion short tons), or about 360% of world coal production in 2013 (latest date available).
https://www.indexmundi.com/energy/?product=coal&graph=consum...
Re: Show HN: Optimage – Advanced image optimization tool
#17As far as I can tell, imageoptim eats this project's lunch. The examples given on optimage's own benchmark page show imageoptim clocking in at around half the total filesize of optimage for the entire benchmark.
Even in the specific examples that are supposed to count against imageoptim -- the destructive chroma sampling, the 'broken gradient' (I can't see it), the orange sneakers (imageoptim's looks better and not overblown colors), or the rotated beach scene -- imageoptim is dramatically smaller on all of them. It puts up a 76k file vs 141k, a 5k vs 14k, a 72k vs 177k, and a 750k vs 1340k.
Halving the filesize for such small differences is exactly what I want in an optimizer.
My biggest complaint with imageoptim is that it's primarily a mac tool, with only a secondary online interface for the windows/linux crowd. But then this project has exactly the same flaw, so there's no gain there either.
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#18> First tool for automatic image compression that just works If you search "image compression tool" on Google you'll have millions of hits of products that do the exact same thing. You even list a bunch of competitors on your website. What makes this the first?
We've updated the submitted tagline from “First tool for automatic image compression that just works” to one from the page itself.
Why? There's an extensive benchmark [1], also seen on the homepage, that proves it is the first tool that does not break images like other state-of-the-art tools, i.e. fits the submitted tagline.
On a side note, HN voting system is horribly broken. I submitted the link in the morning and when I hit the bed it somehow got attention.
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#19FYI in firefox (62.0.2) some 'before' images look different. In chrome they look identical. Perhaps the source images included gamma information? CRS-4 Mission Launch by SpaceX (less contrast, less color saturation in 'before') Jellyfish photo by 贝莉儿 NG (much lower blue saturation in 'before')
Yes, some of the source images are tagged with ICC color profiles.
It looks like Firefox still does not treat untagged images as sRGB and the difference on wide-gamut monitors may be noticeable.
That was a matter of an option switch. It should be fixed now. Thanks.
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#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
I plan to release a cross-platform CLI tool first. The core tool already works under *nix. But there's still a good portion of business logic in the app. The work on a cross-platform GUI is happening too, but it is way slower than I anticipated. It's going to be native or nothing. I don't consider Electron or QT as an option.
Electron I understand, but what's wrong with Qt?
Qt does not use native widgets only simulates them.