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Re: Show HN: Open Source alternative to services like Intercom.io and Smooch

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Wouldn't this be a lot more like a replacement for services like Live Chat? Because I definitely would not be paying as much as I am for intercom if I was only using the live chat feature. Their integrated abilities to categorize users and program and schedule onboarding messages as well auto suggested help articles are what makes it worth the price.

There are a ton of free live chat clients out there. What makes this one stand out?

Re: Show HN: Open Source alternative to services like Intercom.io and Smooch

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Nice work! Looks tempting... until you realise you need to integrate your service with a whole heap of other platforms. Or build scale. Classic Build vs Buy — are you building a core capability in your product, or are there more important things you should be focusing on?

Re: Show HN: Open Source alternative to services like Intercom.io and Smooch

#15

The hardest part is not the client and the server...but the CRM (the Intercom part). Here's something a lot of us would use - we want to bring our own socket API (for example pure websocket, xmpp or something like Pusher.com ) and connect it to a full fledged Intercom-like tool. This is the "Gitlab for Intercom". The problem that happens is that people usually don't want to rip out their client side messaging SDK, es…

Wow, this is incredibly valuable feedback, thank you so much! We appreciate your candor (and encouragement!)

You're right in that the socket server is fairly easy to pull in using other tooling. Our focus at the moment is to just build a stable set of pieces that you can use to interact with your website visitor. The operator transports are where things will get interesting, connecting to other tools, etc. This is where connecting things like Pusher will shine, we hope.

Thanks again for the feedback!

Re: Show HN: Open Source alternative to services like Intercom.io and Smooch

#16

Nice work! Looks tempting... until you realise you need to integrate your service with a whole heap of other platforms. Or build scale. Classic Build vs Buy — are you building a core capability in your product, or are there more important things you should be focusing on?

Thanks for the feedback :) Our initial "core" has been surrounding the live chat, but our approach has been to build it into many separate pieces. This allows us to focus on what we think are the major integration points next. As well as ensure that the things that need to scale well, do, like our socket server.

Re: Show HN: Open Source alternative to services like Intercom.io and Smooch

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post #15

The hardest part is not the client and the server...but the CRM (the Intercom part). Here's something a lot of us would use - we want to bring our own socket API (for example pure websocket, xmpp or something like Pusher.com ) and connect it to a full fledged Intercom-like tool. This is the "Gitlab for Intercom". The problem that happens is that people usually don't want to rip out their client side messaging SDK, es…

Wow, this is incredibly valuable feedback, thank you so much! We appreciate your candor (and encouragement!) You're right in that the socket server is fairly easy to pull in using other tooling. Our focus at the moment is to just build a stable set of pieces that you can use to interact with your website visitor. The operator transports are where things will get interesting, connecting to other tools, etc. This is wh…

The gitlab-for-intercom has genuine value there, so if I were you, I would just use a third party transport and build a killer product there.

Build something I ^H^H people want ;)

IMHO the rest can come later. Just my $0.02 . Excited to see what you come up with.

Re: Show HN: Open Source alternative to services like Intercom.io and Smooch

#19

The hardest part is not the client and the server...but the CRM (the Intercom part). Here's something a lot of us would use - we want to bring our own socket API (for example pure websocket, xmpp or something like Pusher.com ) and connect it to a full fledged Intercom-like tool. This is the "Gitlab for Intercom". The problem that happens is that people usually don't want to rip out their client side messaging SDK, es…

Just want to echo, I’ve recommended intercom.io for a company I was on the board of. It was a huge boon to them. The chat was 5% or less of the value. The analytics… tieing messaging based on actions… the visibility into active/growing, influencers/detractors vs passive/slipping away and guided processes for new features: (show this set of messaging to my feature flag’d customers who have access to beta functionality)… thats the value of intercom.

Re: Show HN: Open Source alternative to services like Intercom.io and Smooch

#20
Admirable effort...but why not focus on the front-end/app - the CRM side of things - and simply develop on the shoulder of giants? By this i mean, maybe consider using an existing, underlying messaging platform like matrix.org. Visit https://matrix.org and scroll down to the "What is this for?" section, to see what i mean. And, as others noted, this would allow you to focus on the CRM portion, which is what end-users and clients would value more (read: pay you money). Just a thought.
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