I'm quite sad that I can't seem to find "Puts ethical considerations first" as one of the values. Possibly "Puts customers first", but that seems more like "drives value" or some other money oriented buzzword.
That's an interesting value and I will definitely consider adding it! In some ways, this describes companies that are B-Corps/PBC but I agree, it's not perfect.
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#13Seems like this list of "values" takes one side exclusively, without offering a counter-option. I would like to see an IQ > EQ option, for example.
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#14Not sure how much you can consider Work/Life balance a key value when you expect people to work 50 hour weeks ( https://www.keyvalues.io/kite ). Not to say that 50 hours is awful, there's certainly a lot worse out there, but I'd say it's enough to disqualify that as a 'key value'.
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#15Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's an interesting value and I will definitely consider adding it! In some ways, this describes companies that are B-Corps/PBC but I agree, it's not perfect.
It's going to be difficult because there's no real ethical "Standard" in the space that I know of.
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#17Not sure how much you can consider Work/Life balance a key value when you expect people to work 50 hour weeks ( https://www.keyvalues.io/kite ). Not to say that 50 hours is awful, there's certainly a lot worse out there, but I'd say it's enough to disqualify that as a 'key value'.
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#18Cool idea! I would love to see some more opinionated product-oriented values, eg large js frameworks vs minimal client side code, tracking vs privacy, etc.
see this recent article Aligns with this recent article. https://www.fastcompany.com/40420834/the-non-paradox-of-high...
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#19Hello! Lynne here, the creator of Key Values. I’m an indie hacker, and I've spent the last few months putting this together. I interviewed dozens of engineers to come up with a list of values: things we care about most when evaluating new opportunities. I then worked with engineering teams (which you see listed on Key Values) to identify the 8 values that best describe their engineering team and culture. I’m working…
1. Principle over loyalty.
2. Empower individuals over institutions.
3. Self-restraint over greed.
4. Decisions based on reason, not ego.
5. Give back to Open Source.
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#20I've worked on a few teams that claimed these "values" (or practices) but when the rubber hit the road, what they said and what they did didn't match up.