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Re: Show HN: Eternum: Easy IPFS pinning

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This service is for pinning files on IPFS. Say, for example, that someone wants to publish a paper that they want to always be available (even if a government tries to take it down). IPFS helps by making distribution p2p, as anyone who accesses the file can also redistribute it until it expires from their cache. Pinning removes this expiration, and serves the file forever. Eternum provides that service, making sure t…

you will still take it down with a DMCA request though.

From our server. We can't do anything about taking it down from the network.

Re: Show HN: Eternum: Easy IPFS pinning

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From our server. We can't do anything about taking it down from the network.

If nobody else has a copy of the paper on the network?

If a file is so obscure that nobody has ever wanted to read it, and it was only on one node, and that node also stops serving it, then it leaves the network until someone puts it back in.

Re: Show HN: Eternum: Easy IPFS pinning

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If nobody else has a copy of the paper on the network?

If a file is so obscure that nobody has ever wanted to read it, and it was only on one node, and that node also stops serving it, then it leaves the network until someone puts it back in.

Well, then the pinning service is a bit useless, isn't it?

If it's popular it should not need pinning, if it's not popular it needs pinning but can be easily censored...

Re: Show HN: Eternum: Easy IPFS pinning

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If a file is so obscure that nobody has ever wanted to read it, and it was only on one node, and that node also stops serving it, then it leaves the network until someone puts it back in.

Well, then the pinning service is a bit useless, isn't it? If it's popular it should not need pinning, if it's not popular it needs pinning but can be easily censored...

I don't understand. If you want to keep child porn available, I'm afraid you'll have to find another service. If you're writing subversive propaganda against the Erdogan regime, we're happy to keep that pinned.

Re: Show HN: Eternum: Easy IPFS pinning

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Well, then the pinning service is a bit useless, isn't it? If it's popular it should not need pinning, if it's not popular it needs pinning but can be easily censored...

I don't understand. If you want to keep child porn available, I'm afraid you'll have to find another service. If you're writing subversive propaganda against the Erdogan regime, we're happy to keep that pinned.

This isn't about Childporn, it's about papers.

You claim to pin stuff on IPFS, however you also say you comply to DMCA.

Unless you want legal trouble, this means you'll have to comply with any DMCA request that might be remotely valid.

Search up "Alex Mauer" to get a recent example of how DMCA can and will be misused.

Unless you want to get in trouble with big publishers, you will have to censor users on your service, it is essentially useless for niche files that cause legal trouble, regardless of how that is resolved.

How is your pinning service useful to keep such files online? How do you plan to defend yourself against the Erdogan or Chinese Regime?

Re: Show HN: Eternum: Easy IPFS pinning

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post #16

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I don't understand. If you want to keep child porn available, I'm afraid you'll have to find another service. If you're writing subversive propaganda against the Erdogan regime, we're happy to keep that pinned.

This isn't about Childporn, it's about papers. You claim to pin stuff on IPFS, however you also say you comply to DMCA. Unless you want legal trouble, this means you'll have to comply with any DMCA request that might be remotely valid. Search up "Alex Mauer" to get a recent example of how DMCA can and will be misused. Unless you want to get in trouble with big publishers, you will have to censor users on your service…

I'm not sure what your argument is. Do you want to post pirated files, or files for which someone else has the copyright? Why do Erdogan or the Chinese Regime want to use the DMCA against you?

Re: Show HN: Eternum: Easy IPFS pinning

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post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This isn't about Childporn, it's about papers. You claim to pin stuff on IPFS, however you also say you comply to DMCA. Unless you want legal trouble, this means you'll have to comply with any DMCA request that might be remotely valid. Search up "Alex Mauer" to get a recent example of how DMCA can and will be misused. Unless you want to get in trouble with big publishers, you will have to censor users on your service…

I'm not sure what your argument is. Do you want to post pirated files, or files for which someone else has the copyright? Why do Erdogan or the Chinese Regime want to use the DMCA against you?

Why would they not use DMCA? It has been used for not-really-copyright-issue before.

Re: Show HN: Eternum: Easy IPFS pinning

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post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This isn't about Childporn, it's about papers. You claim to pin stuff on IPFS, however you also say you comply to DMCA. Unless you want legal trouble, this means you'll have to comply with any DMCA request that might be remotely valid. Search up "Alex Mauer" to get a recent example of how DMCA can and will be misused. Unless you want to get in trouble with big publishers, you will have to censor users on your service…

I'm not sure what your argument is. Do you want to post pirated files, or files for which someone else has the copyright? Why do Erdogan or the Chinese Regime want to use the DMCA against you?

Again, look up what Alex Mauer is doing with DMCAs.
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