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Re: Show HN: Tesoro – Personal internet archive

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Post by jtrip »

agamble wrote: post #3
Piskvorrr wrote: post #2

That's just as much "my own" as The Internet Archive: a website Out There somewhere. Worse, it's much more likely to rot and disappear than archive.org. Now, if I could run this locally ... (Yes, yes, `wget --convert-links`, I know. Not quite as convenient, though.)

OP here. The internet archive is great, but it's not so awesome if there's some ephemeral content you need to save right away, like Tweets or social media posts. Being able to trigger an archive immediately let's you save temporary content such as that which is more prone to deletion. I'm going to build a Chrome extension to click and make cloud copy of the page you're on, hopefully that will make it seem more person…

A local download only increases the redundancy. Tesoro keeps a copy, and the user keeps a local copy that they can also use however they want. A bit like keeping newspaper clippings, that are found decades later by some relative to be then posted on social websites as something interesting.

Re: Show HN: Tesoro – Personal internet archive

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Post by dsacco »

agamble wrote: post #3
Piskvorrr wrote: post #2

That's just as much "my own" as The Internet Archive: a website Out There somewhere. Worse, it's much more likely to rot and disappear than archive.org. Now, if I could run this locally ... (Yes, yes, `wget --convert-links`, I know. Not quite as convenient, though.)

OP here. The internet archive is great, but it's not so awesome if there's some ephemeral content you need to save right away, like Tweets or social media posts. Being able to trigger an archive immediately let's you save temporary content such as that which is more prone to deletion. I'm going to build a Chrome extension to click and make cloud copy of the page you're on, hopefully that will make it seem more person…

This might sound insane, but if you modified this into a browser extension that runs locally (with options for one-off or continuous saving for entire browsing sessions) I would probably download it. Personally, I have well over 100TB of personal hard drive space in my home, and I would love to just download entire portions of my browsing history locally for archival reasons (and to truly defeat link rot).

As it is now, I personally wouldn't use it (but it's a cool project, definitely please keep working on this idea!).

Re: Show HN: Tesoro – Personal internet archive

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Post by agamble »

dsacco wrote: post #12
agamble wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

OP here. The internet archive is great, but it's not so awesome if there's some ephemeral content you need to save right away, like Tweets or social media posts. Being able to trigger an archive immediately let's you save temporary content such as that which is more prone to deletion. I'm going to build a Chrome extension to click and make cloud copy of the page you're on, hopefully that will make it seem more person…

This might sound insane, but if you modified this into a browser extension that runs locally (with options for one-off or continuous saving for entire browsing sessions) I would probably download it. Personally, I have well over 100TB of personal hard drive space in my home, and I would love to just download entire portions of my browsing history locally for archival reasons (and to truly defeat link rot). As it is n…

Great idea, thanks for the feedback :)

Re: Show HN: Tesoro – Personal internet archive

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Post by dbz »

This is pretty cool. I have a chrome extension that let's you view the cached version of a web page [1]. Would I be able to use this through an API? I currently support Google Cache, WayBack Machine, and CoralCDN, but Coral doesn't work well and I'd like to replace it with something else.

[1] https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/cmmlgikpahieigpccl...

Re: Show HN: Tesoro – Personal internet archive

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Post by pbhjpbhj »

smoyer wrote: post #13

It's not mine unless it's running on my own servers or computer - I created a really rough version of this several years ago that is saved to my computer (and from there into box).

I adapted a bash script someone posted here, it uses Firefox bookmarks (pages.sqlite). Cron runs the script and downloads every page I've bookmarked that month (after some filtering). I don't use it often but sometimes I'll awk-grep it; I'm a hoarder in real life too!

Re: Show HN: Tesoro – Personal internet archive

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Post by [deleted] »

dsacco wrote: post #12
agamble wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

OP here. The internet archive is great, but it's not so awesome if there's some ephemeral content you need to save right away, like Tweets or social media posts. Being able to trigger an archive immediately let's you save temporary content such as that which is more prone to deletion. I'm going to build a Chrome extension to click and make cloud copy of the page you're on, hopefully that will make it seem more person…

This might sound insane, but if you modified this into a browser extension that runs locally (with options for one-off or continuous saving for entire browsing sessions) I would probably download it. Personally, I have well over 100TB of personal hard drive space in my home, and I would love to just download entire portions of my browsing history locally for archival reasons (and to truly defeat link rot). As it is n…

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Re: Show HN: Tesoro – Personal internet archive

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Post by venning »

Thoughts:

I like the look. Very clean. I like how fast it's responding; better than archive.org (though, obviously, they have different scaling problems).

"Your own internet archive" might be overselling it, as other commenters have pointed out; the "Your" feels a bit misleading. I think "Save a copy of any webpage." gives a better impression, which you use on the site itself.

The "Archive!" link probably shouldn't work if there's nothing in the URL box. It just gives me an archive link that errors. Example: [1]

Using it on news.YC as a test gave me errors with the CSS & JS [2]. This might be due to the fact that HN uses query parameters in their CSS and JS, which repeat in the tesoro URL, which you may not be parsing correctly.

Maybe have something in addition to an email link for submitting error reports like the above, just cause I'd be more likely to file a GitHub issue (even if the repo is empty) than send a stranger an email.

As other commenters have pointed out, archive.is also does this, and their longevity helps me feel confident that they'll still be around. Perhaps, if you wish to differentiate, offer some way for me to "own" the copy of the page, like downloading it or emailing it to myself or sharing it with another site (like Google Docs or Imgur) to leverage redundancy, or something like that. Just a thought.

All in all, nice Show HN.

EDIT: You also may want to adjust the header to work properly on mobile devices. Still though, nice job. Sorry if I'm sounding critical.

[1] https://archive.tesoro.io/320b55cc9b78e271c94716ee23554da8

[2] https://archive.tesoro.io/a7bf03e247224bc3b4e5a7c1f2ad42b1

Re: Show HN: Tesoro – Personal internet archive

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Post by unicornporn »

In what way could this considered to be “your own internet archive”? I see no way to register a user and save pages to a collection.

If you really want to create your own archive, set up a Live Archiving HTTP Proxy[1], run SquidMan [2] or check out WWWOFFLE[3].

If you want something simpler, have a look at Webrecorder[4] or a paid Pinboard account with the “Bookmark Archive”[5].

[1] http://netpreserve.org/projects/live-archiving-http-proxy/

[2] http://squidman.net/squidman/index.html

[3] http://www.gedanken.org.uk/software/wwwoffle/

[4] https://webrecorder.io/

[5] https://pinboard.in/upgrade/

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