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Re: Show HN: Milanote – A notes app for creative work

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Post by thenomad » Tue, Feb 07, 2017, 1:17 PM UTC

hiphopyo wrote: post #7

My recent findings is that it's better to not take any notes at all. Instead of adding some item to your todo list, do it immediately and don't send it off like some nasty surprise to your future self. The smaller my notes.txt the less complications I have to worry about and I can go on living a happy and fulfilled life.

There are other uses for notes besides todo lists.

Currently I'm designing a large VR environment for a game. Without notes of what needs to go where and when, that would be going... less well.

Re: Show HN: Milanote – A notes app for creative work

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Post by therealmarv » Tue, Feb 07, 2017, 1:17 PM UTC

TeMPOraL wrote: post #10

therealmarv wrote: post #9

Hm, no, simply cannot afford 144$/y for another cloud note system. Please, we need this: Note taking done right: Android, iOS, Desktop, Markdown & HTML & Pictures, easy flat file format (preferred markdown), Web clipper, archive notes, offline and do this all without wasting whitespace (no document editor like Evernote) and good sync and instant search results while you type. <- would spend a bigger double digit numb…

The closest to this I found is Org Mode in Emacs. Pros and cons: + it's free + it's a flat, text format, human-readable and editable even outside Org Mode + has one of the best table editors ever + off-line first, no cloud bullshit + can handle source code and images pretty well + awesome export options - including LaTeX, HTML and nicely formatted UTF-8 plaintext + infinite flexibility of Emacs - infinite flexibility…

Read that one before. I'm getting more and more used to the simple Emacs shortcuts on the Mac (because it's build in to some degree). But I don't know if I have enough time to learn it... used to Sublime and VSCode coding here ;)

Re: Show HN: Milanote – A notes app for creative work

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Post by thenomad » Tue, Feb 07, 2017, 1:17 PM UTC

I love this. Fantastic app. I'm going to be using it for the design process on the next part of my VR game, by the looks of things.

Major complaint so far - it's a bit laggy on FF.

Re: Show HN: Milanote – A notes app for creative work

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Post by thenomad » Tue, Feb 07, 2017, 1:19 PM UTC

TeMPOraL wrote: post #10

therealmarv wrote: post #9

Hm, no, simply cannot afford 144$/y for another cloud note system. Please, we need this: Note taking done right: Android, iOS, Desktop, Markdown & HTML & Pictures, easy flat file format (preferred markdown), Web clipper, archive notes, offline and do this all without wasting whitespace (no document editor like Evernote) and good sync and instant search results while you type. <- would spend a bigger double digit numb…

The closest to this I found is Org Mode in Emacs. Pros and cons: + it's free + it's a flat, text format, human-readable and editable even outside Org Mode + has one of the best table editors ever + off-line first, no cloud bullshit + can handle source code and images pretty well + awesome export options - including LaTeX, HTML and nicely formatted UTF-8 plaintext + infinite flexibility of Emacs - infinite flexibility…

Does Org-mode handle images? If not, that's an issue for a lot of creative work.

Re: Show HN: Milanote – A notes app for creative work

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Post by pwython » Tue, Feb 07, 2017, 1:22 PM UTC

hiphopyo wrote: post #7

My recent findings is that it's better to not take any notes at all. Instead of adding some item to your todo list, do it immediately and don't send it off like some nasty surprise to your future self. The smaller my notes.txt the less complications I have to worry about and I can go on living a happy and fulfilled life.

That may work for some people... but this looks more geared to creative types, where drafting and collecting ideas is the first step of a longer process that isn't easily accomplished in one sitting. Saving rough drafts and wireframes is quite common and necessary if you want well thought-out and executed pieces.

Re: Show HN: Milanote – A notes app for creative work

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Post by jclos » Tue, Feb 07, 2017, 1:26 PM UTC

therealmarv wrote: post #9

Hm, no, simply cannot afford 144$/y for another cloud note system. Please, we need this: Note taking done right: Android, iOS, Desktop, Markdown & HTML & Pictures, easy flat file format (preferred markdown), Web clipper, archive notes, offline and do this all without wasting whitespace (no document editor like Evernote) and good sync and instant search results while you type. <- would spend a bigger double digit numb…

You might be interested by [Laverna](https://laverna.cc/). It's not as full-featured as Google keep but it does work offline and let you encrypt and sync your notes via dropbox, which I find to be more important than pure looks. The other alternative would be [Turtl](https://turtlapp.com/) but you need to host the server somewhere (although I imagine just hosting it localy would work as well).

Re: Show HN: Milanote – A notes app for creative work

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Post by favadi » Tue, Feb 07, 2017, 1:30 PM UTC

thenomad wrote: post #14

TeMPOraL wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The closest to this I found is Org Mode in Emacs. Pros and cons: + it's free + it's a flat, text format, human-readable and editable even outside Org Mode + has one of the best table editors ever + off-line first, no cloud bullshit + can handle source code and images pretty well + awesome export options - including LaTeX, HTML and nicely formatted UTF-8 plaintext + infinite flexibility of Emacs - infinite flexibility…

Does Org-mode handle images? If not, that's an issue for a lot of creative work.

Yes, org-mode can handle images.

Re: Show HN: Milanote – A notes app for creative work

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Post by TeMPOraL » Tue, Feb 07, 2017, 1:30 PM UTC

thenomad wrote: post #14

TeMPOraL wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The closest to this I found is Org Mode in Emacs. Pros and cons: + it's free + it's a flat, text format, human-readable and editable even outside Org Mode + has one of the best table editors ever + off-line first, no cloud bullshit + can handle source code and images pretty well + awesome export options - including LaTeX, HTML and nicely formatted UTF-8 plaintext + infinite flexibility of Emacs - infinite flexibility…

Does Org-mode handle images? If not, that's an issue for a lot of creative work.

Good enough for documents. Not good enough for "creative work". Emacs can display images (but not really edit them - or at least I'm not aware of an appropriate elisp package ;)), and you can make Org Mode display the images you link to in-line. Including ones you generate from code snippets in your .org file, which makes the whole thing pretty useful for scientific computing :).

Re: Show HN: Milanote – A notes app for creative work

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Post by therealmarv » Tue, Feb 07, 2017, 1:32 PM UTC

jclos wrote: post #16

therealmarv wrote: post #9

Hm, no, simply cannot afford 144$/y for another cloud note system. Please, we need this: Note taking done right: Android, iOS, Desktop, Markdown & HTML & Pictures, easy flat file format (preferred markdown), Web clipper, archive notes, offline and do this all without wasting whitespace (no document editor like Evernote) and good sync and instant search results while you type. <- would spend a bigger double digit numb…

You might be interested by [Laverna]( https://laverna.cc/ ). It's not as full-featured as Google keep but it does work offline and let you encrypt and sync your notes via dropbox, which I find to be more important than pure looks. The other alternative would be [Turtl]( https://turtlapp.com/ ) but you need to host the server somewhere (although I imagine just hosting it localy would work as well).

Laverna looks not bad (beside the white space, if I want to edit a long markdown document I will use something else). Thanks, I will try it out. Turtle (which looks like a private Google Keep) I wanted to try out two days ago but could not register. Do you know if Turtle does some caching? Beeing dependent on Internet (connection) for notes is something which I want to avoid entirely (actually Google Keep is good at that thing, works offline).

Re: Show HN: Milanote – A notes app for creative work

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Post by pjc50 » Tue, Feb 07, 2017, 1:34 PM UTC

therealmarv wrote: post #9

Hm, no, simply cannot afford 144$/y for another cloud note system. Please, we need this: Note taking done right: Android, iOS, Desktop, Markdown & HTML & Pictures, easy flat file format (preferred markdown), Web clipper, archive notes, offline and do this all without wasting whitespace (no document editor like Evernote) and good sync and instant search results while you type. <- would spend a bigger double digit numb…

> 144$/y for another cloud note system

That's astonishingly expensive for what it is. Microsoft OneNote is free. Even office 365 "home premium" is only $100/y and comes with a load of storage.