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Re: Show HN: Wit.ai Bot Engine beta

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Hi everyone! I'm one of the cofounders. This is an early beta of our Bot Engine. We would love to get the community's feedback. Thanks!

Hey Ar7hur, Awesome Bot Engine - thanks. 2 questions, if I can: 1. How much of an inspiration did the Telegram bot API make on your dev team? 2. What's the NLP back-end for it and what are your plans for duckling? I forked it a while ago and was going to add some languages I know - would that be useful? Thanks for an awesome product!

1. None, AFAIK their API is a way to send and receive messages, but does not provide automation. Am I wrong?

2. We use a combination of traditional NLP (CRF NER, maxent classifiers) and deep learning. The "old" stuff needs less data to be trained. We'll continue to support duckling, we always love PRs, please help us!

Re: Show HN: Wit.ai Bot Engine beta

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With the Messenger platform being opened up today as well, are there currently plans to provide some kind of boilerplate integration between the Messenger api and the wit.ai HTTP api?

Been playing with the Bot Engine all day btw - great product so far :)

Re: Show HN: Wit.ai Bot Engine beta

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With the Messenger platform being opened up today as well, are there currently plans to provide some kind of boilerplate integration between the Messenger api and the wit.ai HTTP api? Been playing with the Bot Engine all day btw - great product so far :)

(Wit.ai engineer here)

Thank you for the interest :-)

We haven't released any examples showing an integration with Messenger Platform API. In the meantime, please refer to the Messenger Platform docs: https://developers.facebook.com/docs/messenger-platform/quic...

If you have any feedback, please shoot!

Re: Show HN: Wit.ai Bot Engine beta

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Man, i really love wit.ai, one of the coolest projects i've worked with. Unfortunately, these days i'm becoming jaded to X as a Service. Things like hosting or databases as a service are quantifiable, i have an idea of how much effort it takes me to migrate away... but AI? Especially the cool AI flavored NLP that wit.ai offers - it's just too hard to migrate away from for me. With that said, i understand how hard doi…

(cofounder of Wit.ai here) Thanks for your kind words :) I understand your concerns, here is my take. X as a service allows you to get X with a lot less efforts. It allows you to understand the problem and your needs by getting started quickly. Over time, if X as a service saved you enough time and you become successful, you can choose to develop an expertise in X and cut the dependency. Wit is also about building a…

Could you explain why it is in your best interest to do so? Unless your community-based efforts are focused on "built on Wit", you would be actively lowering the bar to entry.

From a company standpoint, the commoditization of the GP's comment is directly counter to your incentives as a business.

Re: Show HN: Wit.ai Bot Engine beta

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

(cofounder of Wit.ai here) Thanks for your kind words :) I understand your concerns, here is my take. X as a service allows you to get X with a lot less efforts. It allows you to understand the problem and your needs by getting started quickly. Over time, if X as a service saved you enough time and you become successful, you can choose to develop an expertise in X and cut the dependency. Wit is also about building a…

Could you explain why it is in your best interest to do so? Unless your community-based efforts are focused on "built on Wit", you would be actively lowering the bar to entry. From a company standpoint, the commoditization of the GP's comment is directly counter to your incentives as a business.

That may be the case but then the onus will be on Wit.ai to evolve in their innovation and remain competitive/ relative. Right now they are offering something that requires less know how and has "better" performance for less time. That is arguably valuable now and if it stops becoming valuable, or anytime before then, they'll need to evolve.

Re: Show HN: Wit.ai Bot Engine beta

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

(cofounder of Wit.ai here) Thanks for your kind words :) I understand your concerns, here is my take. X as a service allows you to get X with a lot less efforts. It allows you to understand the problem and your needs by getting started quickly. Over time, if X as a service saved you enough time and you become successful, you can choose to develop an expertise in X and cut the dependency. Wit is also about building a…

Could you explain why it is in your best interest to do so? Unless your community-based efforts are focused on "built on Wit", you would be actively lowering the bar to entry. From a company standpoint, the commoditization of the GP's comment is directly counter to your incentives as a business.

Not sure I correctly understand your question, but I'll give it a shot.

Today, Wit offers many advantages out-of-the-box so you don't have to setup your own solution.

As NLP gets more commoditized (e.g. through open-source, open datasets), Wit will have to provide even more value than today to stay relevant. Value can be ease of use, accuracy, etc. That's how the field makes progress.

Regarding best interest, if you mean FB's best interest, FB wants more intelligent bots in Messenger, VR, etc. It makes sense to provide the tools to do so. Opening these tools also helps make them better (why is FB open-sourcing React for example?)

If you mean the Wit team's best interest, we're always happy to provide better tools to developers and innovate in AI / UX. That's why we started Wit after all :-)

Re: Show HN: Wit.ai Bot Engine beta

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Hi everyone! I'm one of the cofounders. This is an early beta of our Bot Engine. We would love to get the community's feedback. Thanks!

hey ar7hur - excited about the release.

i've seen/heard that wit.ai likes to use clojure (lisp for AI programming? of course!). was clojure used to power Bot Engine? if so, how did your team like the experience?

Re: Show HN: Wit.ai Bot Engine beta

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Hi everyone! I'm one of the cofounders. This is an early beta of our Bot Engine. We would love to get the community's feedback. Thanks!

hey ar7hur - excited about the release. i've seen/heard that wit.ai likes to use clojure (lisp for AI programming? of course!). was clojure used to power Bot Engine? if so, how did your team like the experience?

Wit.ai (including Bot Engine) is 100% Clojure. Our Grand Master is Rich Hickey.
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