It should have paid as well as organic otherwise there's no business model and it's just a small rebellion that might be abandoned for lack of income.
It needs to start somewhere.
Show HN: Open Hunt – an open and community-run alternative to Product Hunt
11–20 of 192 posts
Re: Show HN: Open Hunt – an open and community-run alternative to Product Hunt
#12For a bit of background: - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10739875 - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10741827 I've been a Product Hunt user from their initial HN launch and am still a big fan. They've made a very important impact in the tech scene. Open Hunt is an honest attempt at a community run alternative, tailored to giving / getting feedback, and finding very early stage stuff. Would love your feedba…
As the chief complainer about Product Hunt, I appreciate that transparency is out front-and-center, with clear documentation on how your service aims to avoid the same pitfalls.
That being said, it reminds me of another service with the same goals: Ello, who also said they were not going to take venture capital. We know how that turned out.
I mentioned in the threads that a Hacker News/PH competitor may not be better mechanically. There's still a lot of work that needs to be done there, particularly with ranking algorithms.
Re: Show HN: Open Hunt – an open and community-run alternative to Product Hunt
#13I'd join this.
It's asking for scary permissions:
> Read Tweets from your timeline.
> See who you follow, and follow new people.
> Update your profile.
> Post Tweets for you.
Please, consider adding more options, or explaining how you use those permissions. (For example, you can do what you like to my facebook wall.)
EDIT: Lack of public posting is an interesting choice. It doesn't feel like much of a community. I can see that public comments risks undue negativity or aggressive feedback.
Re: Show HN: Open Hunt – an open and community-run alternative to Product Hunt
#14For a bit of background: - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10739875 - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10741827 I've been a Product Hunt user from their initial HN launch and am still a big fan. They've made a very important impact in the tech scene. Open Hunt is an honest attempt at a community run alternative, tailored to giving / getting feedback, and finding very early stage stuff. Would love your feedba…
I'd personally like to see other account options than Twitter (specifically email-based accounts).
Agreed. Initially, I canceled the OAuth request because I thought I had missed other options, but really Twitter is the only option. I don't love that it wants to read all of my tweets. Would love to see more integrations (and I'm sure they're coming) :)
Re: Show HN: Open Hunt – an open and community-run alternative to Product Hunt
#15I'd join this. It's asking for scary permissions: > Read Tweets from your timeline. > See who you follow, and follow new people. > Update your profile. > Post Tweets for you. Please, consider adding more options, or explaining how you use those permissions. (For example, you can do what you like to my facebook wall.) EDIT: Lack of public posting is an interesting choice. It doesn't feel like much of a community. I ca…
Oops, that's a mistake. We meant to do read only. Fixing now
Re: Show HN: Open Hunt – an open and community-run alternative to Product Hunt
#16It should have paid as well as organic otherwise there's no business model and it's just a small rebellion that might be abandoned for lack of income.
Thanks for the feedback. Can you elaborate? We'd like to build something sustainable, and to start that just means building the community. Monetization concerns would be an open question that I think the community could decide on later. Would love to learn more about what you have in mind.
Just the same as google. Organic is what you have. Paid ads on the side or above - for startups who want their company name to remain in the limelight beyond their one day of organic listing.
FWIW I think the name is pretty ordinary. "OpenHunt" just means "copy of ProductHunt" and "open" means nothing except to try to have a position against PH. What you have has no identity of its own.
Re: Show HN: Open Hunt – an open and community-run alternative to Product Hunt
#17You should take a look at lobsters. They solve a lot of the transparency issues that some have with HN and ProductHunt.
"Some other link aggregation sites are operated by corporate entities which may have significant financial incentive to censor or artificially promote the links and discussion that relate to those entities, their investments, or their competitors. Some of these sites have had moderators of popular sub-forums banned after it became known that they were being paid by 3rd party companies seeking special treatment of their submitted stories.
All moderator actions on this site are visible to everyone and the identities of those moderators are made public. While the individual actions of a moderator may cause debate, there should be no question about which moderator it was or whether they had an ulterior motive for those actions.
All user voting and story ranking on this site uses a universal algorithm and does not artificially penalize or prioritize users or domains. Per-tag hotness modifiers do affect all stories with those tags, but these modifiers are made public and usually used to shorten the life of meta-discussions. If certain domains have to be banned from being submitted due to spam, the list will be made publicly available.
If users are disruptive enough to warrant banning, they will be banned absolutely, given notice of their banning, and their disabled user profile will indicate which moderator banned them and why. There will be no hidden or childish "shadow banning" or "hellbanning" of users popular on some other sites.
The source code to this site is made available under a 3-clause BSD license for viewing, auditing, forking, or contributing to. This code is always up to date with what is running in production on this website.
Public stats are available for site requests, comments submitted, stories submitted, and users created."
Re: Show HN: Open Hunt – an open and community-run alternative to Product Hunt
#18For a bit of background: - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10739875 - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10741827 I've been a Product Hunt user from their initial HN launch and am still a big fan. They've made a very important impact in the tech scene. Open Hunt is an honest attempt at a community run alternative, tailored to giving / getting feedback, and finding very early stage stuff. Would love your feedba…
Did Ryan Hoover ever respond to all the negative sentiment about PH?
No. The only comment is a "Sorry": https://twitter.com/rrhoover/status/676926628979720192
Which is to be expected, "vocal minority" and all.
Re: Show HN: Open Hunt – an open and community-run alternative to Product Hunt
#19So who's going to be the first one to submit this to Product Hunt? :D
Re: Show HN: Open Hunt – an open and community-run alternative to Product Hunt
#20For a bit of background: - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10739875 - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10741827 I've been a Product Hunt user from their initial HN launch and am still a big fan. They've made a very important impact in the tech scene. Open Hunt is an honest attempt at a community run alternative, tailored to giving / getting feedback, and finding very early stage stuff. Would love your feedba…
As the chief complainer about Product Hunt, I appreciate that transparency is out front-and-center, with clear documentation on how your service aims to avoid the same pitfalls. That being said, it reminds me of another service with the same goals: Ello, who also said they were not going to take venture capital. We know how that turned out. I mentioned in the threads that a Hacker News/PH competitor may not be better…
If it gets to the point where it needs revenue to handle the hosting bill, it'll be organized as a non-profit and the community will decide how to handle things (via ads or whatever else).