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Show HN: Kite - Create and share Django and Rails applications in seconds

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Re: Show HN: Kite - Create and share Django and Rails applications in seconds

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Looks interesting. But, a similar solution exists with a similar name called PageKite (https://pagekite.net/). They do not deploy your application code to the cloud. With PageKite you run your environment locally and then create a tunnel from a public address to your local environment.

I think the only benefit to Kite is if you want your development application to be running from a public address for a long time.

The PageKite approach allows you to have whatever web environment you want and to bring it up/down at will. I have used PageKite for over a year and it has worked very well. It also seems safer, since I wouldn't want to deploy my development changes to a public web site with some unintended security flaw.

Re: Show HN: Kite - Create and share Django and Rails applications in seconds

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post #3

Looks interesting. But, a similar solution exists with a similar name called PageKite ( https://pagekite.net/ ). They do not deploy your application code to the cloud. With PageKite you run your environment locally and then create a tunnel from a public address to your local environment. I think the only benefit to Kite is if you want your development application to be running from a public address for a long time. T…

Thanks for the feedback!

While PageKite definitely offers a great way to expose your local web app to others, we want to get rid of the local setup process altogether, so developers can just spin up an environment using our service and start working from their favorite machine.

Our initial target is newer web developers who may find the setup process daunting, or developers who may manage several projects but don’t want to worry about about the details behind setting up different web frameworks and adding new services. As many can attest, setting up Rails isn’t exactly easy, and it can be even worse if you’re not familiar with the command line, or don’t have xcode installed.

We're definitely working on ways to allow developers to work privately and avoid publishing by default.

Re: Show HN: Kite - Create and share Django and Rails applications in seconds

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Looks interesting. But, a similar solution exists with a similar name called PageKite ( https://pagekite.net/ ). They do not deploy your application code to the cloud. With PageKite you run your environment locally and then create a tunnel from a public address to your local environment. I think the only benefit to Kite is if you want your development application to be running from a public address for a long time. T…

Thanks for the feedback! While PageKite definitely offers a great way to expose your local web app to others, we want to get rid of the local setup process altogether, so developers can just spin up an environment using our service and start working from their favorite machine. Our initial target is newer web developers who may find the setup process daunting, or developers who may manage several projects but don’t w…

I agree your approach has a different set of advantages. It's just the end goal is similar and the name is so similar. That's more the point I was trying to make.

Re: Show HN: Kite - Create and share Django and Rails applications in seconds

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This sounds really intuitive and simple to use!

I'd love to use this to develop my Rails applications. I would be using Kite as a 100% staging server to test things out before pushing to production. I don't have to worry about setting up different RVM gemsets for different apps.

Re: Show HN: Kite - Create and share Django and Rails applications in seconds

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This sounds really intuitive and simple to use! I'd love to use this to develop my Rails applications. I would be using Kite as a 100% staging server to test things out before pushing to production. I don't have to worry about setting up different RVM gemsets for different apps.

Good to hear - I’ve definitely visited gem dependency hell, and been to companies where you had to fight for a staging server. We hope to make Kite a great way to both host your work but also test & stage it in a linux box to avoid any gotchas from developing on a different environment than your prod machines.

Re: Show HN: Kite - Create and share Django and Rails applications in seconds

#9
Love it, this is great. I'd definitely use it for quick prototypes and hackatons.

It says "No setup, No configuration". But what if I want to configure stuff? For instance, there's a lot of things going on in settings.py.. to name a few: - setting up the DB - email config - celery (tasks and stuff) - Caching

How much control do I have on the "cloud"? I.e. if I want to create a folder to put the files uploaded by users? If I want to run background tasks?

Also: How does one switch from dev to production? Does Kite plan to offer a robust solution for production down the road? I'm not overly concerned because since I have a local folder, I can easily deploy it to any vps.

I have dozen of django projects and I'd gladly give it a fair try, let me know: phzbox at gmail.

Re: Show HN: Kite - Create and share Django and Rails applications in seconds

#10
Looks slick, but how is this different from just running "django-admin.py startproject mysite"?

When developing something serious, you typically want to match the stack you will be deploying on. So far, the two easiest (not necessarily wisest) options have been Google App Engine and Heroku, with latter being my choice of late due it running on AWS and "closeness" to S3 and DynamoDB.

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