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Re: Show HN: Non SaaS – Directory of Non SaaS Apps

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First entry I see: Pabbly Connect [0], a subscription web service that normally runs $20 a month and currently has a lifetime subscription offer advertised. Everything is hosted in the cloud, you sign in to access the product, they're SOC2 compliant, etc.

This website has a very different definition of SaaS than I do, and it sounds like it rhymes with "subscription".

A few more examples to make sure it wasn't a one-off:

* Foxly, a URL shortener with a subscription or lifetime deal [1].

* CountVisits, web analytics. This one doesn't offer a subscription, but it's still all hosted on their servers and therefore has usage limits (which you can pay to upgrade) [2]

[0] https://www.pabbly.com/connect/

[1] https://foxlyme.com/pricing/

[2] https://countvisits.com/

Re: Show HN: Non SaaS – Directory of Non SaaS Apps

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We as Software developers need to be honest with ourselves and really think about pricing. The product should be priced as per the effort and time it took to develop. If application needs maintenance then charge it separately.

But the customer should not have to pay for your SaaS because you don't want to work 9 to 5.

Re: Show HN: Non SaaS – Directory of Non SaaS Apps

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We as Software developers need to be honest with ourselves and really think about pricing. The product should be priced as per the effort and time it took to develop. If application needs maintenance then charge it separately. But the customer should not have to pay for your SaaS because you don't want to work 9 to 5.

That’s not how price works. Price is a function of supply and demand. The cost of goods sold is just part of what goes into price. So if you make something really compelling or scarce that people are willing to pay a lot of money for, you can charge more for it than it costs you to produce it. That’s business.

Re: Show HN: Non SaaS – Directory of Non SaaS Apps

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We as Software developers need to be honest with ourselves and really think about pricing. The product should be priced as per the effort and time it took to develop. If application needs maintenance then charge it separately. But the customer should not have to pay for your SaaS because you don't want to work 9 to 5.

>> The product should be priced as per the effort and time it took to develop

When I started programming I costed projects like this. Now I price things based on their value to the customer.

There were a number of reasons for the switch;

Firstly in the earlier model all I'm selling is my time. All time I don't have work is lost, and I can't make it back. This resulted in years of being underpaid because a month of no work was lost forever.

There are lots of things you need to do running a business test are not "billable". Finding new eork is one of them. So costing just the time you spent on the app is naive.

Pricing based on effort also allows no opportunity to grow. If I hire an employee I now need to find work for her as well. And so on.

Lastly, when making products (to sell over and over) you can't base price on cost because we don't know up-front how many copies we'll sell.

So we look at the value to the customer. Things that offer them higher value cost more. Sometimes there's a surplus, and that allows new, less certain, products to be developed. Sometimes it takes years for a product to return the investment.

We moved some (not all) products to a subscription when it became obvious that it was not possible to support all existing clients from only new-sales revenue. We needed to hire full-time supporters and since they add value to existing customers they need to be paid for by customers.

This means that if sales dried up tomorrow , existing customers could still get support ad infinitum. This is -much- more valuable to them than some small subscription amount.

So here's my suggestion. If a service is costing you more than the value you are getting, just stop using it. By definition you will be ahead. You don't need yo feel aggrieved at how other people price their stuff. That's on rhem, not you.

Re: Show HN: Non SaaS – Directory of Non SaaS Apps

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What a refreshing thing it is to pay for software once and never pay again! Already I can see several SaaS subscriptions that can be replaced here.

All coins have 2 sides. Paying once is great, and if uou are happy then that's good. I use a bunch of software purchased on this model.

It's worth understanding though that the seller owes you nothing after this. Not support. Not development. Not keeping up with API or whatever changes. Not bug fixes (although most everyone ships some free updates for a while.) Obviously not hosting.

And for lots of software this model is perfect. For other stuff it's imperfect (as anyone who desperately needs Google Support will sympathize with.)

You get to choose what software I'd on your business-critical path, and what is on your "can replace anytime" path.

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