Show HN: Pep – Turn Your Website into a Progressive Web App
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Re: Show HN: Pep – Turn Your Website into a Progressive Web App
#2Hi guys!
I don't want to build native apps. So I built Pep. It turns your website into a Progressive Web App (PWA) with one line of code. It's kind of like Workbox (https://developers.google.com/web/tools/workbox), but with adaptive pre-fetching, CDN, and responsive asset batteries included.
I'd love your input; feedback is how good products become great.
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#3Ooo can’t wait to check them out!
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#4Mind to explain how it works? At least on the mobile website there is no way to find out...
Re: Show HN: Pep – Turn Your Website into a Progressive Web App
#5Hi guys! I don't want to build native apps. So I built Pep. It turns your website into a Progressive Web App (PWA) with one line of code. It's kind of like Workbox ( https://developers.google.com/web/tools/workbox ), but with adaptive pre-fetching, CDN, and responsive asset batteries included. I'd love your input; feedback is how good products become great.
Cool. Mixed message: your site starts with a loading spinner for me.
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#6Very, very slow for me on the first loading screen on pixel 3 XL, mobile 4g, both chrome and mobile Firefox. Firefox loaded after 4s or so, chrome did not after 10s
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#7Can someone explain what a PWA is? I tried reading the official Mozilla docs and wikipedia. I don't understand - how do these apps work like "native" apps if they are not using native UI kits and running inside a browser? That's not really "native". Native app to me is like macOS Mail or Sublime Text. I don't consider any of the electron apps (Slack, VSCode) as "native".
There is a real beauty of using native apps. I don't like this move towards PWAs(from what I understand) - its like the developer has to put up with 3 different dists (macOS, Windows and Linux) so let's make the entire app extremely bloated, fuck the user experience and native integration and lets all go full wild wild west in the Javascript land. Developer's laziness has lead to Electron and Javascript spaghetti world we live in. I have noticed this and its controversial but everytime I see anything done in Javascript, 9/10 times it is awful and convoluted. Slow. Javascript developers appear to be a lot more inexperienced in software engineering than say a C++ developer. BootCamp courses teach you how to make bloat. Don't get me wrong - there are some good Javascript libraries but they're rare. I am sure there are a lot of good Javascript developers out there, but the general observation I've got is not very positive.
Ever used Sublime Text? Instantly different than any web app or electron app. I kind of want us to go back to old ways of doing things.
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#8Might be helpful to add an example. This is google before/after type thing.
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#9Can someone explain what a PWA is? I tried reading the official Mozilla docs and wikipedia. I don't understand - how do these apps work like "native" apps if they are not using native UI kits and running inside a browser? That's not really "native". Native app to me is like macOS Mail or Sublime Text. I don't consider any of the electron apps (Slack, VSCode) as "native". There is a real beauty of using native apps. I…
PWA is actually hybrid app (web container inside app husk) compiled by Google for example. On Android once you install it, it's actually APK that has WebView.
Re: Show HN: Pep – Turn Your Website into a Progressive Web App
#10Can someone explain what a PWA is? I tried reading the official Mozilla docs and wikipedia. I don't understand - how do these apps work like "native" apps if they are not using native UI kits and running inside a browser? That's not really "native". Native app to me is like macOS Mail or Sublime Text. I don't consider any of the electron apps (Slack, VSCode) as "native". There is a real beauty of using native apps. I…
It's an "installable" web app - ie creates a desktop icon or mobile launch icon and removes the chrome from the browser so it looks like a native app. For mobile I believe there's a pop-up that prompts for install, on desktop you have to do it in the options menu I believe.