Ask HN: Every time I register a new domain, I get spammed

#1

Post by welshguy » Tue, Jul 07, 2015, 4:37 PM UTC

Every time I register a new domain, I get spammed by companies wanting to develop my new website. The messages don't come from my domain name provider - they come from third party companies. How do they come by this data? Or am I being naive in supposing that my domain name provider is not selling this information on?

Edit: I can see that it probably comes from WHOIS data. But how do they get tipped off that the new domain exists in the first place?

Re: Ask HN: Every time I register a new domain, I get spammed

#2

Post by alanpost » Tue, Jul 07, 2015, 4:43 PM UTC

The same thing started happening to me, just this year actually. A domain I registered in 2014 didn't suffer this problem.

My observation is that it is coming from the whois record for the domain.

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#3

Post by coreyp_1 » Tue, Jul 07, 2015, 4:45 PM UTC

I was wondering exactly the same thing! I registered a new domain and was flooded with emails and phone calls!

Re: Ask HN: Every time I register a new domain, I get spammed

#4

Post by trebor » Tue, Jul 07, 2015, 4:50 PM UTC

Unless you pay for "WHOIS Privacy" your contact information is public. I'm not certain how they find the new domain registrations though, maybe they watch for new DNS entries.

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#5

Post by jason_slack » Tue, Jul 07, 2015, 5:29 PM UTC

ah, yes, glad to see someone wonders this too. w while back I had asked: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9409341

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Post by [deleted] » Tue, Jul 07, 2015, 5:59 PM UTC

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#7

Post by pravka » Tue, Jul 07, 2015, 5:59 PM UTC

trebor wrote: post #4

Unless you pay for "WHOIS Privacy" your contact information is public. I'm not certain how they find the new domain registrations though, maybe they watch for new DNS entries.

Use Google Domains -- their WHOIS privacy is free.

Re: Ask HN: Every time I register a new domain, I get spammed

#8

Post by theaccordance » Tue, Jul 07, 2015, 6:14 PM UTC

There's a public WHOIS record that's associated to every domain registered that spammers mine for both your email address as well as your physical mailing address.

Best way to stop this kind of spam is to simply pay for privacy protection on your domains. Privacy Protection is an annual, per domain service that shouldn't add more than a couple dollars to your yearly renewal costs.

Re: Ask HN: Every time I register a new domain, I get spammed

#9

Post by auganov » Tue, Jul 07, 2015, 7:54 PM UTC

I'm aware of one TLD operator that actually does report all new domain creations. Probably more do that too.

Other than that there's plenty of companies that live of scraping WHOIS [and related] data. domaintools.com most notably. EDIT: they surely do more than just scrape whois data

An unsophisticated spammer could just scrap dailychanges.com or similar sites and get pretty far.

Re: Ask HN: Every time I register a new domain, I get spammed

#10

Post by trebor » Tue, Jul 07, 2015, 8:10 PM UTC

pravka wrote: post #7

trebor wrote: post #4

Unless you pay for "WHOIS Privacy" your contact information is public. I'm not certain how they find the new domain registrations though, maybe they watch for new DNS entries.

Use Google Domains -- their WHOIS privacy is free.

It's free if you don't mind giving Google your contact information, which they can easily combine with their advertising data...