Ask HN: Should I branch off my startup's technology into a separate company?
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Re: Ask HN: Should I branch off my startup's technology into a separate company?
#2Re: Ask HN: Should I branch off my startup's technology into a separate company?
#3I've been in your shoes, in terms of co-founder not pulling his weight (it was family, too--oops!), and I did not find a resolution. I ended up ceasing work on what I think was likely to become a very nice lifestyle business (we were already ramen-profitable), because I was going to have to do all of the work.
I could re-create the tech (I built everything), but I haven't, partially to avoid any bad feelings, partially because I'm doing other things.
Given that you hired a contractor, and that presumably your technology is your whole company's value (you seem to think it's almost all of the work that's been done), I'm not sure why it'd be okay to take that elsewhere, except by virtue of "these guys don't deserve it!"
The correct answer to "these guys don't deserve it" is to have clauses to handle that in your business documents--vesting, cliffs, etc. It's almost certainly not "take the technology and run."
You might be able to sort-of blackmail your co-founders into accepting your deal, but I imagine it's going to be approached in that fashion. "I want this to happen or I'm done building things" seems to be where you're at, and that's really not okay. (Edit: I think it's not okay to demand the technology. I think it's fine to demand their time, and perhaps a revised agreement where they all have to put in time to vest shares!)
Don't get me wrong--I side with you. I just think the best option is probably to not continue, or to continue at a capacity that you're comfortable with, given their work input.
That said, I've been fucked in a few business ventures now, and perhaps I'm erring way too far from where the money is. I don't think I have any regrets, I'm proud of how I handle myself--but I don't have any money, either!
Re: Ask HN: Should I branch off my startup's technology into a separate company?
#4Your narrative tends to cast your partners as distracted by other business ventures, it seems that you are searching for a way to disengage. If they were savvy, they would not agree to your proposal. The code base is company property (that is if you have completed the process of corporate formation). You might believe that your contribution in teh form of code disproportionately exceeds your co-founders contributions. Had you actually formed a company, assigned the IP to the company, determined the value of each founders contributions in addition to any IP (cash, equipment, space, expertise, time commitments) you would be able to foresee how your co-founders will respond to your proposal.
IF I'm incorrect and you have filed articles of incorporation, drafted bylaws, and executed agreements issuing founders stock, then I suggest you consult with your outside counsel (you know, the attorney(s) who drafted all those agreements for you) to help ensure you don't f_ck up the operations of your "profitable home services business".
Suggest you ask yourself the following "why am I walking away from a profitable business? Especially when I committed to building that business with my co-founders?"
Maybe you have realized you don't get along and so you want out. In that case, offer to purchase the code base, and agree to payment terms that provides enough runway for you to generate revenue and pay for the code base over time.
Finally, you wouldn't be "giving" equity to your co-founders. You would be issuing equity in exchange for the "home services company" assigning all right, title and interest in and to the code base and any associated IP to your new company. If your platform is adding value, it makes little sense for them to agree to an assignment. Instead, they should offer to license it to your new company for royalties, equity, and continued development.
Summum Bonum.