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Ask HN: How to increase self-discipline as a self-employed person?

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TL;DR: Any tips on staying disciplined while being self-employed?

I recently got an offer to work remotely for a friend on couple of his projects that is interesting, pays better and is at least going to keep me busy for another six months. And there is a also good possibility that as I finish these, I will be getting more work and I am likely to build a small business of my own here through this. So last week I quit my job and started working on this full-time. So far, my friend is happy and so am I.

But there is something odd going on here. Unlike my previous job where I had to work 9-6, 5 days a week, I don't really have a pretty good schedule here for myself. Now while working from home, sometime I work for a continuous 16 hours and then sometime I find myself I haven't looked at that project in the last two days as I spent it by browsing random projects on the internet, working on other things, watching multiple seasons of sitcoms or just brainstorming about product ideas that I can build in future!

I know that to make it as a self-employed person, one needs to have a good self-control. But, do any of you guys have been through this? How have you managed yourself? Does this gets better after a while? What should I do to make this better and be efficient?

Re: Ask HN: How to increase self-discipline as a self-employed person?

#2
I struggled through the same thing for couple of months. Few things that helped me get back on track

1. Define your working hours and stick to it. Setup alarms and go to work at same time of the day every day.

2. Designated working place - If you are working from your home, try to setup a place in your house that you will use only for work. Don't use it for anything else. The way it worked for me was when I got to that place, I used to switch into work time mode and when I got out of it, I will switch back personal time mode.

3. Log your hours - Use something like toggl to log your hours for yourself. Track your working hours and if you are falling on the short end, you will make up for it by working on weekends. But eventually you will try logging consistently your work hours.

In the end, its matter of creating a habit.

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#3
I've been working remotely for the past 2 weeks :)

Have a separate place in your house where you work. No browsing cats there. You may try coworking space or rent an office with a friend.

There are 3 main drawback while working remotely: - Communication (we are wired up that face to face communication is the most efficient) - Interruptions (e.g. screaming nephew) - Human interactions (going to lunch with someone, discussions about tech)

Re: Ask HN: How to increase self-discipline as a self-employed person?

#4
I started working for myself from home earlier this year. Although it's great in many ways, there are several challenges.

As you have noted, the lack of an external structure is a big one. Here's what I do...

First, I map out a long-term timeline, which is generally a season (spring, summer, autumn, winter). I identify goals, objectives, events, etc., and map them out in a simple open source PM software package.

Second, each week -- usually late Friday afternoon or Saturday -- I take the broad project plan stuff and create a more detailed plan for the next week.

Finally, at the end of each day I write a very detailed list of things I am going to do the next day. This includes work stuff, but also anything else: chores, exercise, etc.

When I get up in the morning, I look at my list for that day, and tackle it. Round about 5:00 pm I review the list and make the next day's list, and at 5:30 I treat myself to a Manhattan and some good music. Then it's dinner and whatever.

I also journal my work-related stuff in iPython notebook, and I keep an accounting of my hours in an Excel spreadsheet.

All that keeps me focused.

It's also important to provide yourself some relief. When you first start working like this, you realize how much time is spent at a normal work place not really working. In a normal work place there are meetings, water cooler chats, and so on. So it's important not to think that you must be productive for eight solid hours a day, because in most work environments you aren't. I plan on some reduced amount of productive time, and factor in what I call buffer time. After, say, 90 straight minutes of work, I might take a 10 - 15 minute walk around the neighborhood just to clear my mind and get my blood flowing.

That's what works for me.

TL;DR: Make a detailed daily list of things to do, and do them. Balance the list, and reward yourself at the end of each successful day.

Re: Ask HN: How to increase self-discipline as a self-employed person?

#6

Just love what you do, then you could experience what they call "flow" and, indeed, will need some self-discipline to remember to eat and sleep and exercise.) Self-control is mostly for struggling with boredom or fatigue.

I think it's a bit naive to think that the only reason for lack of focus on work is boredom or fatigue, and that it can be solved by loving your work.

I love my work, but wouldn't want to do it every waking moment. Also sometimes I hit a difficult bit of work and find it difficult to focus as I'm not progressing as quickly.

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I started working for myself from home earlier this year. Although it's great in many ways, there are several challenges. As you have noted, the lack of an external structure is a big one. Here's what I do... First, I map out a long-term timeline, which is generally a season (spring, summer, autumn, winter). I identify goals, objectives, events, etc., and map them out in a simple open source PM software package. Seco…

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Re: Ask HN: How to increase self-discipline as a self-employed person?

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Just love what you do, then you could experience what they call "flow" and, indeed, will need some self-discipline to remember to eat and sleep and exercise.) Self-control is mostly for struggling with boredom or fatigue.

I think it's a bit naive to think that the only reason for lack of focus on work is boredom or fatigue, and that it can be solved by loving your work. I love my work, but wouldn't want to do it every waking moment. Also sometimes I hit a difficult bit of work and find it difficult to focus as I'm not progressing as quickly.

Surely GP was tongue-in-cheek?

Re: Ask HN: How to increase self-discipline as a self-employed person?

#9
Discipline comes from routine.

Here is a possible routine.

1) Wake up at 7 at the latest

2) Take a shower

3) Get dressed

4) Eat breakfast

5) Read mails and news

6) Join #startups on freenode to have some company

7) Say good morning to everyone there (I am blackwhite)

8) Start working

9) Have lunch

10) Back to work

11) Stop at anytime between 5-7

12) have dinner.

13) Procrastinate some more or do some more work.

14) Get to bed at 12 the latest.

Rinse and repeat....

Re: Ask HN: How to increase self-discipline as a self-employed person?

#10

Just love what you do, then you could experience what they call "flow" and, indeed, will need some self-discipline to remember to eat and sleep and exercise.) Self-control is mostly for struggling with boredom or fatigue.

I think it's a bit naive to think that the only reason for lack of focus on work is boredom or fatigue, and that it can be solved by loving your work. I love my work, but wouldn't want to do it every waking moment. Also sometimes I hit a difficult bit of work and find it difficult to focus as I'm not progressing as quickly.

OK, let's put it differently - self-control to go on is required when there is not enough motivation.)
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