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Ask HN: Why does being in an accelerator pre-YC lessen your YC chances?

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Our startup was in an accelerator previous to applying to YC, and this was the reason why we were rejected after the interview. I understand the concern that we should already be "accelerated" by now but its hard to compare the previous program we were in to the caliber of YC.

Why does being in an accelerator pre-YC lessen your YC chances? Has anyone had similar experiences with this? Are there any YC alumni that had their company in an accelerator pre-YC?

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Pretty sure the reason that you didn't get into YC wasn't simply because of some binary metric like your previously going though an accelerator. Give them more credit than that and look deeper, regardless of what the email said.

-A fellow YC reject from a few years back

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Pretty sure the reason that you didn't get into YC wasn't simply because of some binary metric like your previously going though an accelerator. Give them more credit than that and look deeper, regardless of what the email said. -A fellow YC reject from a few years back

You're right, it's probably not JUST because of the pre-YC accelerator and the original post should be worded differently. I think however being in an accelerator pre-YC has some definite weight in the decision. Curious if anyone has any insight into this. The interview was going fantastic and all the partners seemed impressed by our traction and opportunity until they brought up the previous accelerator (which coincidentally turned out to be the last question before time was up)

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We have a much higher threshold for startups that have already been through an "accelerator" program. Mainly because we expect them to have thereby been accelerated; if they're not doing well, we worry they might be unacceleratable. It's also a problem that such startups will be twice as diluted at Demo Day, which decreases their fundraising options.

I can think of two startups we've funded that had been through things calling themselves "accelerators" before YC.

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We have a much higher threshold for startups that have already been through an "accelerator" program. Mainly because we expect them to have thereby been accelerated; if they're not doing well, we worry they might be unacceleratable. It's also a problem that such startups will be twice as diluted at Demo Day, which decreases their fundraising options. I can think of two startups we've funded that had been through thin…

That provides a lot of clarity. Thanks PG :)

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We have a much higher threshold for startups that have already been through an "accelerator" program. Mainly because we expect them to have thereby been accelerated; if they're not doing well, we worry they might be unacceleratable. It's also a problem that such startups will be twice as diluted at Demo Day, which decreases their fundraising options. I can think of two startups we've funded that had been through thin…

Does that also apply to angel/pre-seed/seed funded teams ?

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We have a much higher threshold for startups that have already been through an "accelerator" program. Mainly because we expect them to have thereby been accelerated; if they're not doing well, we worry they might be unacceleratable. It's also a problem that such startups will be twice as diluted at Demo Day, which decreases their fundraising options. I can think of two startups we've funded that had been through thin…

Based on the way that's worded, is it safe to assume you hold a low opinion of the programs those two startups (FlightCar and another?) went through prior to being accepted into YC?

If so what do you think was lacking in those two "accelerators"?

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We have a much higher threshold for startups that have already been through an "accelerator" program. Mainly because we expect them to have thereby been accelerated; if they're not doing well, we worry they might be unacceleratable. It's also a problem that such startups will be twice as diluted at Demo Day, which decreases their fundraising options. I can think of two startups we've funded that had been through thin…

Does that also apply to angel/pre-seed/seed funded teams ?

No, not it's not usually a problem if a company has merely raised some money, unless they've sold so much of the company that we know it will deter post Demo Day investors.

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We have a much higher threshold for startups that have already been through an "accelerator" program. Mainly because we expect them to have thereby been accelerated; if they're not doing well, we worry they might be unacceleratable. It's also a problem that such startups will be twice as diluted at Demo Day, which decreases their fundraising options. I can think of two startups we've funded that had been through thin…

Based on the way that's worded, is it safe to assume you hold a low opinion of the programs those two startups (FlightCar and another?) went through prior to being accepted into YC? If so what do you think was lacking in those two "accelerators"?

I don't know much about either of them. There are so many of these things now. It seems like every few days I hear about another one I hadn't heard of. And I don't really know what goes on inside of any of them. Except Imagine K-12, which was started by friends of mine with my encouragement, and one of whose founders, Geoff Ralston, is also a partner at YC. IK12 is definitely good, and we recommend education startups apply to them.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Based on the way that's worded, is it safe to assume you hold a low opinion of the programs those two startups (FlightCar and another?) went through prior to being accepted into YC? If so what do you think was lacking in those two "accelerators"?

I don't know much about either of them. There are so many of these things now. It seems like every few days I hear about another one I hadn't heard of. And I don't really know what goes on inside of any of them. Except Imagine K-12, which was started by friends of mine with my encouragement, and one of whose founders, Geoff Ralston, is also a partner at YC. IK12 is definitely good, and we recommend education startups…

Heh, I have an Airbnb guest staying with me tonight that's in Imagine K-12 right now. I should drop by and see what it's about, considering it's 10 minute walk from my place!

I'm curious what makes them different from the others?

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