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Ask HN: Is the Job Market Actually Bad?

#1
I’m not trying to brag, I am just genuinely confused. I got laid off recently and I had a new job within a week because I constantly get contacted by recruiters both through LinkedIn and directly by email. I’ve never sent an application to anyone and I’ve had dozens of interviews in the past year while I was looking for a new job before getting laid off.

I would have had a new one earlier except I was aiming for fully remote and a big raise, and I failed their correspondingly difficult evaluations. Never got ghosted, never had to deal with AI, never had to fill out an application. I took a local, in office offer that I would have ignored if I were still employed.

Currently I’m waiting for a final decision from another fully remote company and I’m in midstage with 2 more.

I’m not a super genius engineer, and I don’t have any fancy companies on my resume. How unusual is this experience?

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#2
> Currently I’m waiting for a final decision from another fully remote company and I’m in midstage with 2 more.

At the top you said you had a new job after a week, then why are you waiting on a second and continuing interviewing with two other companies.

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#3

> Currently I’m waiting for a final decision from another fully remote company and I’m in midstage with 2 more. At the top you said you had a new job after a week, then why are you waiting on a second and continuing interviewing with two other companies.

Yes I took a not ideal job while I continue interviewing for better ones.

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#5

> Currently I’m waiting for a final decision from another fully remote company and I’m in midstage with 2 more. At the top you said you had a new job after a week, then why are you waiting on a second and continuing interviewing with two other companies.

Yes I took a not ideal job while I continue interviewing for better ones.

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#7
It isn't.

As someone who has made hiring and firing decisions at the Board level, the people who are the most severely affected were either (in no order):

1. Working remotely in North America but demanding Bay Area salaries without the chops to justify it.

2. Working in Western Europe (they complain more about stuff irrelevant to the business but shy away from business critical decision making when offered the opportunity, unlike their Czech, Polish, Romanian, and Bulgarian peers despite us paying €90k-150k TCs across the EU, and Warsaw+Prague becoming Berlin level expensive).

3. Bootcamp grads who never fixed skills issues (foundational knowledge is foundational for a reason).

4. Getting paid Bay Area or Seattle salaries while living in LCOL regions like RTP. The whole point of a Cary office was inshoring - the talent was meh but if we needed a cheap QA engineer or move ops for a stagnant part of our business in 2019 we'd move that job and BU there. They didn't realize they were viewed as at the bottom of the totem pole skills wise.

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So long as you keep your skills sharp, have foundational computer science and engineering knowledge, and live in the primary tech hubs globally, it's a pretty good market.

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> What, in your opinion are the “foundational” CS skills the #3 people are missing

If you've survived this long, I think you will be fine. But I'd recommend anyone from a bootcamp to take an OS course comparable to CS61 [0], an algos course comparable to CS170 [1], and a programming language design course comparable to CS421 [2].

There is foundational design and architectural patterns and knowledge that are taught in OS, Programming Language Design, and Algos classes that cannot be taught in a bootcamp.

My recommendation for people in your shoes is to do GATech's OMSCS or UPenn's online MCIT to learn some of the foundational stuff you were never introduced to at a bootcamp.

[0] - https://cs61.seas.harvard.edu/site/2025/

[1] - https://cs170.org/

[2] - https://cs421-sp26-web.pages.dev/

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#8
"Bad" is relative. It can be more difficult in compressed markets where talent is either in surplus (read: SV, Dub, etc) or where there's a distinct lack of enterprises/startups/whatever providing the surface layer. Given some of the retraction of "warm feelings", esp. re: US contractors in other countries circa American imperialism these days, it can also have a chilling effect on localized markets. But, this is all highly influenced/mutable daily.

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#10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes I took a not ideal job while I continue interviewing for better ones.

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The employee's goal here isn't to make the employer feel proud, it's to exchange their services for money.

If the employer wants an employee they can feel proud of, well, that's a service too, and one they can purchase with money, if they choose.

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