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Ask HN: Is really Y Combinator selection process fair?

#1
Now there is a new filter: “Alumni will review & filter applications”. In our case, none of the Alumni or Partners viewed our YC W2013 materials including Founders URL, Video How it works and Full beta, all of them with 0 views.

They didn´t care if we were a Founder and a Co-Founder with good serial entrepreneur and execution history; raised 725K for this startup; executed and developed a full “Fintech” platform ready to launch.

Reading more than 200 applications per day could be overwhelming and finding the next Google between more than 2,000 applications is like finding a needle in a haystack but YC definitely needs to improve the selection process. Ideas:

a) Start limiting the number of applications per batch (Honestly I prefer that each batch have a limited number of applications. With that limit, Partners will review each one. Alumni are very smart but they are busy building their own startups and don´t have the experience, vision, to screen apps like the Partners.

b) If you involve Alumni they really need to review all the applications and all the materials. People spent a lot of time on the applications; at least they deserve the right to be reviewed in full and if they reject an application is because they really make a good job reviewing it.

c) Now you can apply even if you don´t have an idea. Also make a different application process for groups that are more advanced like almost ready for launch or launched.

We were only asking for the 10 minutes interview like all other groups. YC means for us: a) The best mentoring, b) Feedback, c) Knowledge and Networking

YC: You have the right to reject any group but please review the applications in full. Anyway we are continuing with or without YC. This is only a friendly note to the great people (Partners & Staff) at YC.

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#2
There's no way for you to know the quality of the applicants who got an interview. Why do you think you're so entitled to an interview? YC doesn't owe you anything. Your suggestions are largely self-serving. There's no way to force alumni or anyone else to spend lots of time on every application, and limiting the number of apps just increases the chance YC will miss out on the next Dropbox.

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post #2

There's no way for you to know the quality of the applicants who got an interview. Why do you think you're so entitled to an interview? YC doesn't owe you anything. Your suggestions are largely self-serving. There's no way to force alumni or anyone else to spend lots of time on every application, and limiting the number of apps just increases the chance YC will miss out on the next Dropbox.

I am not saying that I deserve an Interview, what I am saying is that ALL applications and materials NEED to be reviewed so they really don´t miss the next DropBox like you say.

Re: Ask HN: Is really Y Combinator selection process fair?

#4
post #2

There's no way for you to know the quality of the applicants who got an interview. Why do you think you're so entitled to an interview? YC doesn't owe you anything. Your suggestions are largely self-serving. There's no way to force alumni or anyone else to spend lots of time on every application, and limiting the number of apps just increases the chance YC will miss out on the next Dropbox.

It is in the interest of YC to accept/fund applicants with a promising future.

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#5
post #2

There's no way for you to know the quality of the applicants who got an interview. Why do you think you're so entitled to an interview? YC doesn't owe you anything. Your suggestions are largely self-serving. There's no way to force alumni or anyone else to spend lots of time on every application, and limiting the number of apps just increases the chance YC will miss out on the next Dropbox.

whoosh

Re: Ask HN: Is really Y Combinator selection process fair?

#6
I don't mean to be disrespectful but here is my 2 cents:

1. Limiting applications is a really stupid idea. Imagine if all the bad applications filed early and filled the quota.

2. YC decides what best/right for the selection process. None of us have a right to question that. By submitting our application, we are agreeing to this condition implicitly.

3. I am not sure why you consider "watching the videos" as the only form of due diligence to the application. They may have read your application and might have decided just based on that and might have not felt the need to watch the video.

4. "725k raised ..." - I dunno why many startup founders seem to wear "investments" like a "badge of success". I would have sympathized with you if you had instead written - "725k of revenue and dozens of happy customers". Just because someone decided to invest in you, does not mean everyone else has to or that your idea / startup will succeed.

5. "serial entre.... " - why do you need YC? go get what you are worth.

6. "please review applications in full" -- We all sometimes decide to NOT watch a movie, just based on a short 2 minute trailer. There might be no need to read your application in full - you could not grab their attention with whatever little they read.

As I mentioned, I don't mean to be disrespectful - but the tone of your thread is more accusatory than of one respectfully making a suggestion.

All the best!

Re: Ask HN: Is really Y Combinator selection process fair?

#7
I don't want to sound harsh but if your application read like your message here it's not surprising that you got rejected. Investors want people who are hungry for success, not people who feel entitled to it.

Regarding your actual suggestion, I'm not sure how restricting the number of applicants would help, after all it seems far better to have a first-level filter (i.e. alumni network) than to just impose some arbitrary limit based upon a lottery or a first-come-first-served basis.

YC has commented before that the no-idea applications are essentially an experiment. Historically many YC companies have pivoted significantly over the three months of YC, this naturally carries an implication that the idea doesn't matter as much as good founders, so it seems like a reasonable experiment. There's no a priori reason to assume that teams who have launched are going to be more successful than ones who haven't, they're just at a different stage of their life-cycle.

I believe this is only the second season where they've had no application ideas, so it'll probably take them a couple of years to measure if it works or not, but presumably from the fact they're still doing it the initial indications are positive.

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#8
post #7

I don't want to sound harsh but if your application read like your message here it's not surprising that you got rejected. Investors want people who are hungry for success, not people who feel entitled to it. Regarding your actual suggestion, I'm not sure how restricting the number of applicants would help, after all it seems far better to have a first-level filter (i.e. alumni network) than to just impose some arbit…

Thank you for your point of view, but again, I am not saying that I am entitled for success. The only thing that I am saying in my humble opinion is that applications should be reviewed in full (Alumni network or Partners, etc.) That is because probably applies in our case, we are really bad with words in our application but watching a video or how it works and full blown beta demo could increase the chances... my 2 cents.

Re: Ask HN: Is really Y Combinator selection process fair?

#10
The description raises a question in my mind.

With $725,000 already raised, what does that mean for YC's investment? Does YC's $17,000 only buy 1 or 2 percent ownership? Or do they still get 7% and the earlier investors get screwed?

Some companies may not fit within YC's portfolio.

In my opinion, Fair != equal

Good luck.

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