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Ask HN: Do you believe aliens are visiting Earth?

#1
So there's nuance here. Let's define "Aliens" as "non human sentiences". Personally, I think ET hypothesis is valid. Maybe you feel UT (ultra-terrestrial) hypothesis makes more sesne. Or "ED" ( extra-dimensional, as opposed to "from another planet/galaxy").

Facts: there's abundance of testimony that would secure conviction in court regarding abductions, encounters (of variosu "kinds"), and "multi-sensor data".

Truth is, it goes back centuries, before we could concievably have "RE'd" (reverse-engineered) anything similar. So there has to be something external to our current human civilization (not so surprising, how can you explain how megalithic 100-ton bricks structures were build by "primitives").

Yes, this is "provocative" (perhaps) for some on HN. That's the point. not adversarial, but simply to "provoke" a thought - rather, a question - "what is" the nature of reality? The existence of a "higher"/superior/more technological sentient intelligence interacting with us and our planet is a natural pairing with that question.

Belief is important. Because, your personal experience constitutes, for others, a belief. And that's much of the "evidence" we have.

Trend seems clear in gestalt: disclsoure is coming. So I ask here to take the pulse of this "intellectual/technical/curious/secular" (corase categroties) community. Do you believe this is real? If so, why? If not, why not?

If we were to get "DISCLOSURE" (ie, the "government authroity" of a "respect country" stating unequivocally that the reality of "alien" contact is true) woudl your ontology/worldview be "shattered" or "robust", or "otehr"?

*why so many "airquotes"? I recognize the plurality of meanings and layers of baggage associated with different terms. THe air-quotes are simply a glib nod to such multiplicity. Take as such, s'il vous plais.

Basically this post is to serve as a historical marker for taking the temperature of a significant collective in the "pre-disclosure" era. So this is your chance to record your official viewpoint, before it all comes down. What you say?

I am very interested.

Re: Ask HN: Do you believe aliens are visiting Earth?

#2
I don't care enough about aliens to have an opinion. I haven't seen one, and the "abundance of testimony" convinces me of alien existence no more than religious gospel.

> the "government authroity" of a "respect country" stating unequivocally that the reality of "alien" contact is true

Stating the existence of aliens is not unequivocal or based in reality, even if a government does it. Don't forget that Russia claimed to cure cancer a few years ago, we've yet to see how unequivocally true that is in reality.

Re: Ask HN: Do you believe aliens are visiting Earth?

#3
post #2

I don't care enough about aliens to have an opinion. I haven't seen one, and the "abundance of testimony" convinces me of alien existence no more than religious gospel. > the "government authroity" of a "respect country" stating unequivocally that the reality of "alien" contact is true Stating the existence of aliens is not unequivocal or based in reality, even if a government does it. Don't forget that Russia claime…

That's a good viewpoint. You have to stay grounded in your own experience. This Russia cancer thing, what is that? Curious.

Re: Ask HN: Do you believe aliens are visiting Earth?

#4
I think it's very, very unlikely. At least, to date, I haven't seen any evidence to suspect otherwise.

> If we were to get "DISCLOSURE" (ie, the "government authroity" of a "respect country" stating unequivocally that the reality of "alien" contact is true) woudl your ontology/worldview be "shattered" or "robust", or "otehr"?

Such disclosure all by itself would mean nothing to me. The evidence, if any, to support the assertion would mean a lot. I don't think it would affect my worldview at all, but that may be one of those "you don't really know unless it happens" things.

Re: Ask HN: Do you believe aliens are visiting Earth?

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post #4

I think it's very, very unlikely. At least, to date, I haven't seen any evidence to suspect otherwise. > If we were to get "DISCLOSURE" (ie, the "government authroity" of a "respect country" stating unequivocally that the reality of "alien" contact is true) woudl your ontology/worldview be "shattered" or "robust", or "otehr"? Such disclosure all by itself would mean nothing to me. The evidence, if any, to support the…

This is a good viewpoint, too. But it would be good to canvas a range of views from more than 1 country (for example, more than just China).

There's some kind of a "evidence problem" where we rely on a single-source for "evidence" (the government), while discounting "evidence" from testimony/imagery from rando people (even before AI).

Same time, your point touches a key issue: if you don't have experience yourself, no matter what external "proof", you may not believe it. Which is fine, and valid I think.

Re: Ask HN: Do you believe aliens are visiting Earth?

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post #4

I think it's very, very unlikely. At least, to date, I haven't seen any evidence to suspect otherwise. > If we were to get "DISCLOSURE" (ie, the "government authroity" of a "respect country" stating unequivocally that the reality of "alien" contact is true) woudl your ontology/worldview be "shattered" or "robust", or "otehr"? Such disclosure all by itself would mean nothing to me. The evidence, if any, to support the…

This is a good viewpoint, too. But it would be good to canvas a range of views from more than 1 country (for example, more than just China). There's some kind of a "evidence problem" where we rely on a single-source for "evidence" (the government), while discounting "evidence" from testimony/imagery from rando people (even before AI). Same time, your point touches a key issue: if you don't have experience yourself, n…

> There's some kind of a "evidence problem" where we rely on a single-source for "evidence" (the government), while discounting "evidence" from testimony/imagery from rando people (even before AI).

Real evidence isn't dependent on the source. It can be evaluated objectively.

> if you don't have experience yourself, no matter what external "proof", you may not believe it. Which is fine, and valid I think.

I disagree, really. This, along with the opposite (believing in things despite the lack of evidence) are both positions rooted in fantasy rather than reality.

Re: Ask HN: Do you believe aliens are visiting Earth?

#10
I believe alien life exists.

I believe basic alien life will be discovered in the next few decades.

I believe it's possible that basic alien life has maybe made it to Earth aboard meteorites.

I do not believe intelligent aliens have visited Earth.

I never saw aliens, alien technology, or evidence thereof in my time in the Nevada desert.

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