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Ask HN: Dealing with Vibe Coding Depression?

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Ask HN: Dealing with Vibe Coding Depression?

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While originally I was an LLM skeptic, I was also eager to gain insight into it’s true capabilities, and recently I’ve reached the tipping point of existantial dread - I no longer feel any joy while coding. I’m no longer an artisan enjoying the journey of creating, I’m now truly a cog designed to review factory output until even that role is no longer required.

My biggest feeling right now is an immense sense of loss. My belief was that the purpose of one’s life is found through acts of creation. The painter finds joy in painting, and the result is valued because of the effort involved. This feels like an attack on all intellectual pursuits, including the arts, but it’s especially hard considering the technology seems to have the most value at replacing its creators.

Where do we go from here? So many of my friends have talked about switching fields, as we watch this miracle field edge towards becoming a facsimile of itself. I am personally left with many questions about my own future.

Re: Ask HN: Dealing with Vibe Coding Depression?

#2
I think the reality is that software engineering, and soon all knowledge work, are going to transform profoundly like you're noticing.

Where we go depends on the philosophy we apply, and there's way too little philosophy for what to do when AI upends your intellectual craft profession.

All businesses exist to serve a customer, and to help them achieve the outcomes they desire, so to the extent that you can apply these skills to those outcomes then you'll continue to be gainfully employed in a business context.

I think zero sum applications of software like internal tools with fixed scopes will rapidly be automated away with these tools. By comparison, positive sum product engineering of novel technologies seem like they are still hiring.

Would focus on bridging your technical skills into product engineering and deeply understanding a specific customer domain, invest in EQ through coaching and therapy and continue adopting AI tools to optimize your work.

Re: Ask HN: Dealing with Vibe Coding Depression?

#5
This has nothing to do with AI and the nature of coding going forward. Ask HN has regularly been a depression/burn-out sounding board for years. My final conclusion on it is that there is a large number of people here who have relied on external validation to find happiness. The thing you create, the job you have, the money you make, the role or title you have, the degree - none of these things are internal, all external. This is never sustainable and leads to emotional turbulence.

Re: Ask HN: Dealing with Vibe Coding Depression?

#7
There is a sad reality and truthfulness is that you're probably experiencing that dread for nothing. Tech is moving forward but there is an underlying hype thesis that has really yet to become a reality.

The creators at these companies are making all their bets that the switch between interpolate and extrapolate will happen at sometime in the very near future.

If and when that fails to materialize (as I think you could argue some companies are already recognizing is coming, ie Microsoft), the bubble will burst.

Re: Ask HN: Dealing with Vibe Coding Depression?

#9
I don’t get it. Is anyone forcing you to vibe code? If you don’t like vibe coding, don’t do it. The time you save when vibe coding is offset almost 1:1 by the time you need to verify the AI’s output for all but the most trivial applications. And even then, were you happy writing trivial code?

Re: Ask HN: Dealing with Vibe Coding Depression?

#10
> I’m no longer an artisan enjoying the journey of creating

me the first time my boss forced me to unit test my code

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The best thing you can do is listen to your gut and try to act as rationally as you can.

Talk with trusted mentors if you've got them. Don't listen to me and for the love of god don't listen to people on HN or reddit or Youtube or any other social media.

Nobody knows what they're talking about and they certainly don't know how it'll impact you.

If somebody is making you feel afraid, left behind/out, inferior -- they're trying to sell you shit. Don't listen to the bullies and con artists.

You're entitled to your opinion. If you think AI output is crap, it's crap. Don't be pressured to conform. This is supposed to be hackernews after all. There are plenty of companies using java 8 today. You won't be unhireable.

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