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Ask HN: Why do you trust Kagi?

#1
I frequently see high praise for Kagi here, both for the quality of the search results as well as the ostensibly customer-friendly business decisions.

For the people that use their search and trust the company - why? Not to say I don’t trust them or trust them less than any other company claiming to be privacy and security focused, just would like to know how others made their decision.

The obvious strawman argument seems to be that since they charge for search, their business model is based on subscriptions rather than monetizing search data. Nothing would stop a company from charging for search AND selling data

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#2
I pay for the quality of their search results. I don't place any special trust in them.

This is not because I have a reason to consider them untrustworthy; I work on the assumption that we have reached peak enshittification, and that everyone on the web is selling my data.

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#4
For one, I would like to see competition, because I believe that it may help the enshittification problem. We need regulations and a sane amount of competition. So I'm happy to help smaller search engines survive as a business.

Second, Kagi has implemented privacy pass: https://help.kagi.com/kagi/privacy/privacy-pass.html. So there is actually a way to use Kagi in a way that they cannot track you. This is very neat.

Re: Ask HN: Why do you trust Kagi?

#6
Not sure how much "trust" I actually need there. It's mostly convenience for me where it's easy to kill results from websites you never want to see again. This process allows for getting terrific results real quick after you start using it. Also not having ads is great, because you know the result ordering isn't affected by that, and your ad blocker won't be breaking your experience every now and then.

On top of that it's pretty fast and the price is right.

Re: Ask HN: Why do you trust Kagi?

#8
What's to trust? Either a search engine gives me useful results or it doesn't. Of all the search engines I've tried, I get the best results from Kagi.

As to data collection, I appreciate their claims a lot, but "trust" is a relative term. I think it's very unlikely that they're less trustworthy than companies such as Google. It's likely that they're more so. But even if they aren't, I'm not in a worse position than I would be if I didn't use them.

Re: Ask HN: Why do you trust Kagi?

#9

I pay for the quality of their search results. I don't place any special trust in them. This is not because I have a reason to consider them untrustworthy; I work on the assumption that we have reached peak enshittification, and that everyone on the web is selling my data.

oh I don't think we've reached peak enshittification yet, not by a long shot
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