Ask HN: Are you leaving Cloudflare over the recent drama?

#1

Post by jayFellows » Tue, Jun 25, 2024, 8:27 PM UTC

I've seen lots of bad PR for Cloudflare recently (at least on YouTube and X). Seems to be related to poor-form sales tactics (lure in users for cheap and later require they up their plan or close their account). And indeed, the stories I'm seeing are pretty shocking and certainly hurt my perception of the company.

This is seriously making me reconsider Cloudflare as the primary service I use (Pages/Workers, KV, D1, R2, CDN, Domains, etc).

Has this motivated you to leave Cloudflare?

If so, what have you replaced it with?

Re: Ask HN: Are you leaving Cloudflare over the recent drama?

#2

Post by andersa » Tue, Jun 25, 2024, 8:37 PM UTC

Of course not. There is no alternative. No, it doesn't count as an alternative if it's not in the same price range. This specifically applies to R2.

Will keep using it until I can't anymore.

Re: Ask HN: Are you leaving Cloudflare over the recent drama?

#3

Post by mikeywazowski » Tue, Jun 25, 2024, 8:38 PM UTC

I'm currently on their free plan, which is pretty good. As long as they offer it, I'm not likely to leave. If I was on a paid plan it might be a different story, although I can't think of any alternatives off the top of my head, so maybe not!

Re: Ask HN: Are you leaving Cloudflare over the recent drama?

#4

Post by tuttyboy » Tue, Jun 25, 2024, 8:39 PM UTC

What's the recent drama?

Re: Ask HN: Are you leaving Cloudflare over the recent drama?

#5

Post by [deleted] » Tue, Jun 25, 2024, 8:43 PM UTC

andersa wrote: post #2

Of course not. There is no alternative. No, it doesn't count as an alternative if it's not in the same price range. This specifically applies to R2. Will keep using it until I can't anymore.

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Re: Ask HN: Are you leaving Cloudflare over the recent drama?

#6

Post by mtmail » Tue, Jun 25, 2024, 8:49 PM UTC

tuttyboy wrote: post #4

What's the recent drama?

There might be more but this is the one I remember:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40481808 The gist is Cloudflare has undocumented traffic limits. If above a sales person will push you into an enterprise plan. Then if you go higher you’re told to upgrade again. Nobody knows what the limits are and the sales person will not tell you either. One user wrote “From personal experience I know that 10TB per month is like 30k/year”.

Re: Ask HN: Are you leaving Cloudflare over the recent drama?

#7

Post by jayFellows » Tue, Jun 25, 2024, 8:50 PM UTC

tuttyboy wrote: post #4

What's the recent drama?

- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zj7ei5Egk8&t=106s

- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KHB2F8R4o8

- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWtGwW_e56w

Re: Ask HN: Are you leaving Cloudflare over the recent drama?

#8

Post by [deleted] » Tue, Jun 25, 2024, 8:56 PM UTC

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Re: Ask HN: Are you leaving Cloudflare over the recent drama?

#9

Post by jamesponddotco » Tue, Jun 25, 2024, 9:08 PM UTC

I left them a long time ago, as I felt—and still do—like the internet was too dependent on them. None of my projects ever needed DDoS protection though, so I mostly used them for DNS and caching at the edge.

If I ever needed DDoS protection it'd be nice to know of alternatives, if anyone has any to recommend. My provider—Hetzner—provides protection to some degree, but I'm sure a big attack would lead to black-hole routing.

Re: Ask HN: Are you leaving Cloudflare over the recent drama?

#10

Post by delduca » Wed, Jun 26, 2024, 12:18 AM UTC

Yes, I am afraid to recommend it for my clientes.