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Ask HN: My brain is telling me to quit everything. What should I do?

#1
I come from a household of strict parents, where if a non-optimal grade was brought home, you got punished, mostly emotionally but sometimes also physically.

This pushed me to get good grades at all costs and it lead me to creative ways of doing that. I was on the 3rd grade while reading a lesson about the Earth and Nature and it took me a whole Sunday to just read one page. I didn't know it then, but I do know now, I had ADHD (inattentive type). Needless to say, it took me way longer to get anything done in comparison with my peers. Though, all the way up to the end of high school, I earned a 4.0. All of this I accomplished through relentless dedication to school work.

It was at the time when I got a scholarship to study in the States. The first two years, I did ok, cause the classes weren't that bad. But in the subsequent two years when things got hectic, I broke down. I started smoking weed, and for the first time in my life, I thought that I was myself.

I also suffer from depression and anxiety, so weed helped me with these things as well. My emotional intelligence is super low, so I didn't lose much by not having friends. I got really into working out, and became generally happier.

Though I realized that I had to smoke weed all the time in order to feel good, otherwise I was a mess. And I noticed that my Executive Brain function improved a lot. I made choices that were good for me, instead of making difficult choices.

It became so bad that I really hated the ME that was surfacing every time I quit weed. So weed gave me satisfaction in life and I was able to finally be able to enjoy things and waking up in the morning and going for a walk or a swim or a tan or a game. But my career and my school work took a major turn.

Weed does not allow me to do any type of work, but quitting it was no option at the time. I took a Programming Support role, despite having a Masters Degree from a Reputable CS lab in a top university. Weed made me really good at bullshitting, so I managed to get by, and find better jobs consistently.

Though, I always opted for non-leetcode type interviews so that I could bullshit through them.

I'm now off weed, but on many anti-depressants and ADHD meds, but I honestly do not feel any better. I got fired from my last job due to underperforming. My state of mind is ok, but I hate myself so much and my brain for being the way it is. I absolutely despise software engineering as well and grinding through leetcode is a nightmare.

I wake up with dread every single morning and I try to do Leetcode. I don't like any part of it. Nor am I interested in the field. I just did it so I could get paid.

I have a beautiful family that I love. But I feel unable to withstand my sober self. My mind is telling me to go to a warm place, by myself, transfer all my wealth to my wife's account and be away.

I do not posses the ability to maintain relationships, my wife stuck by me for all this time and I don't know why. I really don't want my kids to even see me because I bring a really bad vibe. My mind is always scared and depressed and I don't want them to see me that way.

I got arrested and got bullied in high school and got laid of multiple times from jobs due to my behavior. I don't have any kind of accountability for my actions as my brain does things however it wants. It cannot think and reason and I have suffered from this my entire life.

Only weed made me make conscious choices, but it prevented me from having a job. And it also made my relationship with my wife terrible because she wasn't supportive of it.

I don't know what I want from this post I'm just ranting I suppose. But if I could find some kind of thing that I could do and it wouldn't involve programming I would be so happy to pursue it.

Re: Ask HN: My brain is telling me to quit everything. What should I do?

#2
Get off the meds and do it cold turkey. Taking that garbage is the worst thing you could ever do to yourself because it literally numbs you to the point where you can’t properly process sensory experiences.

I once hit a really bad low point in my life and started taking SSRIs, it only took me 3 months (about the time they start to work) to “nope the fuck out” of that experience. It’s horrible and will mess with your mind.

My advice is for you to learn meditation and how to calm down. It is extremely hard with a racy mind but believe me - you will notice progress and you will feel extremely good about learning how to shut your mind up. It will create a lot of space in your life to address your problems in a realistic way.

And things like emotional intelligence will be a nice side-benefit.

Being mature and having a strong character is not a given, you have to develop these skills on your own.

Find ways to get all this confusion and procrastination out of your system: write, talk to people, climb a mountain.

Failed? Not a problem. As long as you keep trying, you will eventually change things. Giving up is easy but it sure as shit is not satisfying.

Re: Ask HN: My brain is telling me to quit everything. What should I do?

#3
post #2

Get off the meds and do it cold turkey. Taking that garbage is the worst thing you could ever do to yourself because it literally numbs you to the point where you can’t properly process sensory experiences. I once hit a really bad low point in my life and started taking SSRIs, it only took me 3 months (about the time they start to work) to “nope the fuck out” of that experience. It’s horrible and will mess with your…

I am considering it because I'm not noticing a lot of benefit. Wellbutrin helped me with quitting weed and the withdrawals, and also my depression a bit, in allowing me to do things more.

Lexapro ... I'm not seeing any benefit at all.

ADHD meds just seem to make me super anxious.

I also struggle with irritability / short-fuse type problems which manifests itself in a lot of different ways.

====== I'm seriously considering quitting all of them but also super afraid cause I don't know what I will experience. ======

On the other hand the ADHD fucking destroys me because if I have some kind of task that I am uncomfortable doing or that gives me anxiety, it's the only thing I could focus on.

It was only when I started working out that I realized what it means to do something well. I became super fit and could do some ridiculous shit. But I never had that drive for Technology or Programming.

I would really like to Write but who the hell can maintain a family with a salary like that.

Re: Ask HN: My brain is telling me to quit everything. What should I do?

#4
post #2

Get off the meds and do it cold turkey. Taking that garbage is the worst thing you could ever do to yourself because it literally numbs you to the point where you can’t properly process sensory experiences. I once hit a really bad low point in my life and started taking SSRIs, it only took me 3 months (about the time they start to work) to “nope the fuck out” of that experience. It’s horrible and will mess with your…

Please don't take medical advice from HN. Going off tons of meds cold turkey is the worst advice I've ever heard. Especially SSRIs. Talk to your doctor, and ask about getting off the meds if they aren't working for you.

Re: Ask HN: My brain is telling me to quit everything. What should I do?

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post #2

Get off the meds and do it cold turkey. Taking that garbage is the worst thing you could ever do to yourself because it literally numbs you to the point where you can’t properly process sensory experiences. I once hit a really bad low point in my life and started taking SSRIs, it only took me 3 months (about the time they start to work) to “nope the fuck out” of that experience. It’s horrible and will mess with your…

Please don't take medical advice from HN. Going off tons of meds cold turkey is the worst advice I've ever heard. Especially SSRIs. Talk to your doctor, and ask about getting off the meds if they aren't working for you.

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Re: Ask HN: My brain is telling me to quit everything. What should I do?

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Get off the meds and do it cold turkey. Taking that garbage is the worst thing you could ever do to yourself because it literally numbs you to the point where you can’t properly process sensory experiences. I once hit a really bad low point in my life and started taking SSRIs, it only took me 3 months (about the time they start to work) to “nope the fuck out” of that experience. It’s horrible and will mess with your…

Please don't take medical advice from HN. Going off tons of meds cold turkey is the worst advice I've ever heard. Especially SSRIs. Talk to your doctor, and ask about getting off the meds if they aren't working for you.

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Re: Ask HN: My brain is telling me to quit everything. What should I do?

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post #2

Get off the meds and do it cold turkey. Taking that garbage is the worst thing you could ever do to yourself because it literally numbs you to the point where you can’t properly process sensory experiences. I once hit a really bad low point in my life and started taking SSRIs, it only took me 3 months (about the time they start to work) to “nope the fuck out” of that experience. It’s horrible and will mess with your…

I am considering it because I'm not noticing a lot of benefit. Wellbutrin helped me with quitting weed and the withdrawals, and also my depression a bit, in allowing me to do things more. Lexapro ... I'm not seeing any benefit at all. ADHD meds just seem to make me super anxious. I also struggle with irritability / short-fuse type problems which manifests itself in a lot of different ways. ====== I'm seriously consid…

Consider that the ADHD meds might behave differently without the antidepressants.

Re: Ask HN: My brain is telling me to quit everything. What should I do?

#9
Do you see a psychologist and doctor to help you with this (can you afford them?). I think this needs professional help (I am not saying that in a negative way, but I think you need the best help possible). The problem with doctors and psychologists in general is it a lottery and you might have to try different ones to find the ones that take you seriously and don't just shove a drug at you to try (unless they have a really good reason to and they have understood your issues).

So, assuming you don't have a great team, what you could do with is a good friend/family member to advocate for you while you navigate this to get the best help.

You probably also need money to do this, as few countries will provide this for free. Or if they do there will be waitlists. Hopefully you can afford it or someone can help you there, or your advocate can find free resources that are good for you.

What happened to you in childhood/school is not OK, but it is sermountable.

Hope it goes well. Good luck!

Re: Ask HN: My brain is telling me to quit everything. What should I do?

#10
Your problem is low serotonin and historically you have been self-medicating. Don’t do that because it doesn’t work.

The best treatment is a balanced natural diet and natural environmental stimulus. Serotonin is produced from a critical amino acid that must be consumed from food.

Natural stimulus forces productive engagement that you cannot generate on your own, focused acute serotonin receptivity in the brain, even with stellar initiative. For example be responsible for something real like pets, subordinate human careers, challenging projects with goals, and so forth.

In my case as a dumb Army guy I am so much more alive when I am engaging with other soldiers in a managerial capacity and advisor. It does a complete 180 for any depressive mood I may have even though I am hyper introverted and find socializing exhausting.

I recommend visiting with your doctor for evaluation. Extremely low serotonin uptake in the brain is the medical commonality between ADHD and manic depression.

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