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Ask HN: Has AI/LLMs turned you off of tech?

#1
I have been a passionate programmer from high school to my mid-thirties and for the first time in my career I find myself pessimistic about the future of our field to the point that I have lost my spark.

I have always loved correctness, cleanliness, and understanding how things work. Companies are racing to integrate tools that remove all of those attributes from my job. LLMs constantly spit out false information, poorly written and buggy code, and their inner workings are a black box of statistical knobs. They are a tool that encourages bloat and turns the job of the software engineer into a code checker watching over the shoulder of an intern.

I’ve realized the age of discrete, deterministic computing is coming to a close. Due to the tantalizing notion that programming can be commoditized and outsources to a machine, I know corporations will continue to pursue this avenue in full force. It’s put me into a real depression, and I wonder if I’m the only one.

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#3
You've expressed what I believe to be a widely shared sentiment clearly. Thank you.

But while corporations may pursue the "code checker watching over the shoulder of an intern" approach for a while in many domains, it will only prove cost-effective in a handful. The market for software developers will further polarize into roles which require extensive training and experience and roles which are relatively de-skilled.

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#4
50s here. No, it excites me. I use it to augment my skills, not replace them.

(It does scare me in several contexts but society will have to substantially adapt and work through that, after a lot of suffering. The genie is already out of the bottle, after all. Might as well deal with it.)

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#5
I use CoPilot and ChatGPT extensively and don't feel replaced. I feel like I have an incredible superpower and get excited building more efficiently than I ever have been able to before.

I still have a lot of useful things I'm building and learning about.

Maybe I'll feel bummed out if entire projects are being generated and I become QA. But we're not there yet.

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You've expressed what I believe to be a widely shared sentiment clearly. Thank you. But while corporations may pursue the "code checker watching over the shoulder of an intern" approach for a while in many domains, it will only prove cost-effective in a handful. The market for software developers will further polarize into roles which require extensive training and experience and roles which are relatively de-skilled…

> You've expressed what I believe to be a widely shared sentiment clearly. Thank you.

Blogged about this just the other day [0] in response to a HN post asking about how humans and AI can work together in hybrid harmony.

As others have said, there's not much to support that optimistic "lambs lying down with lions" future. Mostly I see skilled people expressing not unfounded fear, but resentment at the tedium and stripping of agency if asked to "correct" the output of generative tools.

[0] https://cybershow.uk/blog/posts/aijobs/

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#9

To be fair, the demise of correctness, cleanliness, and understanding how things work, began long before the latest round of AI. It really just amplifies already degenerate trends in software engineering.

I feel this way about the internet being taken over with user generated content.

It’s strange taking information at face value, and then when you come across something you’re deeply knowledgable about and it’s horribly incorrect yet has thousands of upvotes, you start to wonder just how much you’ve read is actually junk info.

Little wonder that LLMs can’t get things right when they’re working off knowledge bases of absolute shit.

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#10
How can one start a meaningful life when everything done until this point is rendered meaningless? We, the new graduates, who happen to be average, are bottom-tier fooders. We have no leverage or network. No one trusts us.

What we offer is meaningless to most people; our work doesn't produce any value. There is no meaning in these work. How would one begin a career in such conditions? Everything has been shattered so much. There is no trust in the system.

I am talking from the point of a person who is graduating in the current economy after studying CS.

Our (the average) internships don't turn into full-time, our thesis are child's play and can be considered cute. Is this how life is going to be?

With AI, especially after yesterday's Gemini Pro 1.5 demo [1], it does what we bottom-tiers do. Look through examples, and apply it. What was the point on learning things?

[1]: https://youtu.be/SSnsmqIj1MI?feature=shared

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