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Ask HN: I'm feeling awe, unsettled and disoriented by GPT-4. How about you?

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Ask HN: I'm feeling awe, unsettled and disoriented by GPT-4. How about you?

#1
I'm in my mid-40s. For the last 25 years, I can pretty much predict what's going to happen in the next few years. If I made a mistake, it's often because I was over-optimistic about my predictions. e.g. ARM CPU in 2000; Smartphones in 2001 (Microsoft's Compact Framework 1.0); etc.

What happened with GPT-4 shocked me so deeply that, yesterday morning, I caught myself forgetting to give way at a busy intersection. (I've never received any tickets in my life)

This afternoon, I finally had some alone time. So I went into the garden and work on my feelings.

Here is a list of the emotions that are swelling up in me, (using the Junto Emotional Chart)

Awe-struck (for obvious reasons) Astounded

Triumphant (the sci-fi vision has finally come true in our lifetime)

Perplexed (wow, how comes it's coming at us so fast!)

Anxious (of the cascading effect on society, geopolitics and our business).

There are plenty of texts written about either the looming doom or the ultimate freedom of human capital. I am not interested in any of those abstract discussions.

What I do want to hear are

1. How are YOU feeling? 2. Any particular changes you've made to your product or startup? 3. How about your life? 4. If you have any child/children, your family or how you educate them?

Thanks!

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#3
I feel excited.

I dig deeper and I think I’m subconsciously being ignorant of the potential for consequences, big or small. I just want to feel like it’s Christmas morning again as an adult. The iPhone was the last time I felt that. It’s a paradigm shift.

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#4
I am feeling relieved that there's a shiny new thing out there to distract investors, opportunists, and potential competitors, so that the rest of us can continue building in relative peace, solving immediate problems that sound less sexy. The innovation windfall will benefit our startup because it will bring better hardware and services at lower cost.

I remember learning that the introduction of the automatic paintball guns dramatically decreased the price of paint. This benefited all players but not equally. The price of paint for players who did not switch to automatic and kept using manually reloaded paintball guns was reduced to virtually zero. New players sprung for the shiny new automatic paintball gun and usually only played a few games before moving on. The regulars improved their skills with manual reload. When they upgraded to automatic they would have excellent paint conservation discipline and arguably would have a lot more fun for much less cost.

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#6
I'm trying to avoid giving into hyperbole and over-stating the situation, but clearly something significant is going on. So while I'm not starting to build a bunker in the mountains and stockpiling thousands of rounds of ammo because I fear some "machine takeover" ala The Matrix, I am spending a lot of time thinking about possible scenarios and trying to work on some contingency plans.

Anxious (of the cascading effect on society, geopolitics and our business).

Yeah, that's mostly where I'm at. Definitely concerned about the economic impact, especially when you get into the idea of possible rampant "technological unemployment" and what-not. But again, not trying to be too reactionary, or rush to any conclusions. There have been other technologies that were predicted to lead to rampant unemployment, and things didn't work out like that. So far the old adage has held true that "technologies may destroy jobs, but they usually create more new ones for a net gain in the end." But I'm not convinced that it must be so.

So yeah, I'm not running down to the local community college to sign up for welding classes because I'm worried that all the programming jobs will be gone a year from now. But I am thinking about classes I could take, things I could do, etc. to position myself for other roles in the future. The truth is, despite my job title I don't do much actual hands-on coding these days anyway, and the value I create isn't so much in my ability to code. But I am thinking about how I can lean into that more in the future. Taking classes, reading books, studying things that relate more to the industry I work in, thinking about things like maybe getting a "business analyst" certification, or doing some management training, etc.

And in the end, I did grow up in an environment where my dad built and raced stock cars from the time I was a small child, and a lot of my early memories involve being in a shop, working on cars and doing hands-on stuff. And I did take 2 years of welding in high-school. So if I have to go out and take those welding classes, or auto repair classes, or electrician training or something, it wouldn't be the worst thing I could imagine.

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#7
Same here. Had to take a break from regular life for a few hours today. Went floating, then met a friend for a walk and coffee. That really helped bring the anxiety level down, which in turn allowed me to be more present.

Hope you can find some peace soon. Would definitely recommend trying to do anything that takes you off of your head.

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#8
I’m feeling shocked.

This is the biggest technological advance in my lifetime, and it’s clear that we will get several-fold advances in the near term, just from obvious improvements(eg llms reading about how to use themselves based on all the experiments humans are doing now). That’s not even including upside surprises which there will doubtless be. LLMs gaining knowledge of the world through next word prediction was an example of this kind of surprise.

Also, I feel…strangely at peace, and less bothered by the things that usually stress me - achievement, health, the economy, whatever. The moments we’re living in and about to live through are going to be so unimaginably great(good and/or bad) those all seem so inconsequential.

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#9
Too much hype. Obamafication of everything. Ppl are condtioned to hype things up more than actually handle complexity better. New tool building has become very easy but our 3 inch chimp brain is a still a 3 inch chimp brain. All this to say apply the theory of bounded rationality and you and your kids will be fine.

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#10
I posted in length in another thread... to sum it up, I ended with "It's a big deal."

I'm also in my 40s, and I have similar thoughts to yours.

My latest thoughts have been about thinking that we need to take a hard look at what software teams are made off nowadays.

Redraw software teams from scratch: I think 2-3 devs can make the most complex project happen with AI assistance now. I never understood startups with 10 front-end devs, wtf

And another "lead dev" needs to be dedicated to meetings/requirements gathering and stakeholder management. BAs don't work. They can't tell a mouse from an elephant in meetings and most solutions end up strapping more rockets to the pigs until they fly.

Large teams don't work. It doesn't make the software better. With AI's assistance, we can hopefully ditch large teams.

I don't think developers have to worry, they'll just become less specialised as they can rely on AI for a lot of context switching.

What I'm glad I have is my design skills. I've learnt design early and what good UX means down to the gestalt. That is skills that will never leave me and always have provided value... Humans don't like change, so design at the base, is very much linear growth in scope.

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