Why can't Ukraine sell, say 5 KM of land along border to EU for a $ with an option to buy back at 100% premium? No Russian tanks/aircraft can fly thereby protecting. Instead of Ukraine joining NATO NATO can play this credible gimmmick, just like Russia played a gimmmick by declaring independence.
Ask HN: Can't Ukraine lease/sell border land to EU temporarily
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Re: Ask HN: Can't Ukraine lease/sell border land to EU temporarily
#2Because the EU wouldn’t want to buy it?
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#3Short answer: that's not how borders work.
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#4I think while Russia thinks creatively, the other side thinks linearly. Spain, UK, France or Poland should buy the land and poke a finger at the aggressor - just a thought.
Re: Ask HN: Can't Ukraine lease/sell border land to EU temporarily
#5Short answer: that's not how borders work.
not the border, i mean arbitrary land, say 50 miles, along the border.
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#6I think while Russia thinks creatively, the other side thinks linearly. Spain, UK, France or Poland should buy the land and poke a finger at the aggressor - just a thought.
Are any of them itching to enter a land war with Russia?
Re: Ask HN: Can't Ukraine lease/sell border land to EU temporarily
#7Short answer: that's not how borders work.
it worked for hong kong, guantanamo etc. Sell the whole Ukraine for a $ to be redeemed on par in future. Russia will halt all crap in 0.001 seconds.
Re: Ask HN: Can't Ukraine lease/sell border land to EU temporarily
#8I'm not sure that's the play. They don't need land, they need balls (i.e. if the Russians continue then fundamentally detach them from the modern world).
On a tactical level they probably already have more than enough breathing room to be able to mobilize (which I would imagine the US has already done) every information gathering asset in the region to provide Intel to the Ukrainian troops. As far as I'm aware there are already publicly documented AWACS aircraft on patrol as you'd expect.
I have family by a few RAF bases with some saucy planes but it would be foolish to comment on it in a time like this so gossip will stay as such.
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#10Because if a EU country wanted to actually defend Ukraine, they'd just do it. They don't need to play that sort of ridiculous game. They can literally go in there with military assistance and start shooting.
That they aren't doing that, means they don't actually have the will to defend Ukraine against Russia. Ukraine trying to play a little land border game isn't going to change that reality.