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Ask HN: Senior FAANG engineer, going back to school for PhD. Is it a bad idea?

#1
I graduated with a CS bachelors degree a few years ago and joined a FAANG right after. I joined a really cool team and I worked my way up to a senior level.

While I was in school I really liked research and I thought I could do a PhD in computer science some day. I saved up a bunch of money while working and I can easily “afford” to take a few years off to complete the PhD now. Also, with the pandemic and WFH I had some time to actually complete and send out applications to several highly ranked schools.

Now that the acceptances and interviews are slowly trickling in, I’m having some doubts about doing the PhD. I’ve heard horror stories about abusive advisors, mental health struggles, low stipends, burnout, and lack of support systems. I don’t think the PhD will boost my career too much since I’m already in a R&D role at FAANG. Of course I already knew this before sending the applications, but as decision day (April 15) gets closer I’m doubting whether my personal goal of doing a PhD is worth the $1 Million+ opportunity cost and other downsides.

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#4
As the Butthole Surfers teach us: "It's better to regret something you have done, than to regret something you haven't done."[1]

Or to put it another way: money comes, money goes - the real opportunity cost here is your time, and the intellectual fire burning obviously burning very deep in you somewhere that propelled you to take the application process as far as you already have.

So with that framework in mind - and since already you already have the opportunity lined up - go ahead and get that PhD. Who knows, you just might learn something, and end up making a dent in the universe. If it doesn't turn out to be to your liking - you can always go back to the fleshpots of FAANG.

[1] https://www.discogs.com/release/1198927-Butthole-Surfers-Loc...

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#5

I think the question really is what makes you want to go for PhD in Com Sci? Why not masters program? Why PhD? Why Com Sci? Suppose you get your PhD, what’s next for you? Does a PhD help you get there?

A masters program isn’t typically focused on research. I don’t actually care about taking classes; I just want to do research. A thesis-based masters is just training for a PhD, so I would rather do the PhD.

I don’t know what’s next after the PhD. It could be another FAANG job, founding a startup, or really anything. A PhD definitely does not help get me there. It’s just a personal goal

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As the Butthole Surfers teach us: "It's better to regret something you have done, than to regret something you haven't done."[1] Or to put it another way: money comes, money goes - the real opportunity cost here is your time , and the intellectual fire burning obviously burning very deep in you somewhere that propelled you to take the application process as far as you already have. So with that framework in mind - an…

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I attempted something similar and I lasted about a day before it dawned upon me that an MS was really what I was after. A PhD is really a young person's game. Just as you don't attend conservatory later in life to become a performance musician, you don't "catch up" on a PhD to become a research scientist -- that boat has sailed. I know it's not what you want to hear, especially since you're already nontrivially invested.

It's sad because I probably stole a slot from some poor, smart kid from Nepal.

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As the Butthole Surfers teach us: "It's better to regret something you have done, than to regret something you haven't done."[1] Or to put it another way: money comes, money goes - the real opportunity cost here is your time , and the intellectual fire burning obviously burning very deep in you somewhere that propelled you to take the application process as far as you already have. So with that framework in mind - an…

Completely agree. OP you can always leave after a masters and go back to FAANG

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#10
Another aspect to it, you can actually start a research focussed startup. If you are taking a huge hit on income, and the PhD pays basically nothing anyways, you can absolutely start a company where your research will be at the core. Of course this depends on what you want to study.
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